2009: Oakland crime decreased twice as fast as nat'l average (Rowland Heights: buy, university)

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

hahaha...that apology was for the normal people in this thread-certainly not you.

These comments however, were meant for you without any regret whatsoever: Consider this your intervention.

Its also a fact that whites in this country spent 300 plus years stomping on black people, threw them in a ditch that they are still trying to claw their way out of. Undisputable FACT.

Many have made it out, but many are still trying. 300 years of damage is going to take some time to overcome. And you are just going to have to deal with it. Their recovery is not going to be based on your timetable, but on theirs.

You do not get to piously generalize about all black people and all black communities without first confronting the insurmountable obstacles placed in their way by YOUR KIND. Yes, Whites did that to Black people, its an undeniable fact.

So take your sanctimonious, pompous and arrogant attitude towards Black people and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Furthermore,
For most of our history, the economic, social and political infrastructures of the United States of America has been simultaneously dedicated to WHITE advancement and BLACK servitude. Whites enjoyed the original Affirmative Action because they benefitted from a 200+ year old system that gave you preferential treatment. The original Affimative Action.

All facts. The truth is hard to swallow I know.

Read it and weep.



From you that's a compliment.

How many years of slavery did you personally suffer?

You're simply uneducated about the history of the world. A lot of people who were not from Sub-Sahara Africa were enslaved; the Jews, Greeks, Arabs, in fact most of Western Europe was under slavery during the Pax Romana.

I don't see people today from those geographical areas claiming that it's okay for people of their race to commit crimes in great abundance because they were enslaved.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

How many years of slavery did you personally suffer?

You're simply uneducated about the history of the world. A lot of people who were not from Sub-Sahara Africa were enslaved; the Jews, Greeks, Arabs, in fact most of Western Europe was under slavery during the Pax Romana.

I don't see people today from those geographical areas claiming that it's okay for people of their race to commit crimes in great abundance because they were enslaved.

So says the multi-generational recipient of the original Affimative Action.

[Mr. Fantastic]

I never said anything about my ethnic or ancestral origins.

It's funny though to see you literally meltdown like this in front of everyone, spewing racist vitriol in defense of your insecurities.

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

How many years of slavery did you personally suffer?

You're simply uneducated about the history of the world. A lot of people who were not from Sub-Sahara Africa were enslaved; the Jews, Greeks, Arabs, in fact most of Western Europe was under slavery during the Pax Romana.

I don't see people today from those geographical areas claiming that it's okay for people of their race to commit crimes in great abundance because they were enslaved.

a) blacks were enslaved far more recently

b) Yes you do. Russia is still feeling the after effects of serfdom because it was also very recent. It's the main reason why the Marxist revolution occurred there first. You don't have 90% of the population going through 600+ years of serfdom while the other 10% (noble class) lives regally without there being consequences... same applies to American slavery. If American indentured servitude had continued that long you would see a much larger effect... as it is, it's the reason why there's a far higher percentage of extreme poverty in the southern white community... it also has a lot to do with why racism in the south was so extreme. The only groups below white indentured servants were blacks and native americans.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

I never said anything about my ethnic or ancestral origins.

It's funny though to see you literally meltdown like this in front of everyone, spewing racist vitriol in defense of your insecurities.

way too defensive and totally unconvincing.

You just can't stand having your own rhetoric thrown back in your face.

Well, tough.

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[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

a) blacks were enslaved far more recently

b) Yes you do. Russia is still feeling the after effects of serfdom because it was also very recent. It's the main reason why the Marxist revolution occurred there first. You don't have 90% of the population going through 600+ years of serfdom while the other 10% (noble class) lives regally without there being consequences... same applies to American slavery. If American indentured servitude had continued that long you would see a much larger effect... as it is, it's the reason why there's a far higher percentage of extreme poverty in the southern white community... it also has a lot to do with why racism in the south was so extreme. The only groups below white indentured servants were blacks and native americans.

Okay, so how long do black people get to use slavery as their scapegoat to explain all the problems in their community? Is there a time limit? I think 150 years is pretty long. Were you thinking 300? Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

way too defensive and totally unconvincing.

You just can't stand having your own rhetoric thrown back in your face.

Well, tough.

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Posting cartoons has a lot more readable substance than your Al Sharpton rants.

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Okay, so how long do black people get to use slavery as their scapegoat to explain all the problems in their community? Is there a time limit? I think 150 years is pretty long. Were you thinking 300? Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

America was segregated 50 years ago.

Inner-City black neighborhoods still have the same ****-poor schools left over from back when America was segregated.

The CIA used the crack epidemic that almost exclusively affected poor black neighborhoods to fund the contras in the 80's and early 90's.

It took the US less time to respond to the Haiti earthquakes than it did to Katrina. A lot less time. We didn't even acknowledge that the Republic of Haiti was a country (as opposed to a french territory) until the 1860's...

Innocent blacks get victimized by the police in extremely disproportionate numbers compared to all other groups combined.


The list goes on... unequal treatment certainly didn't end 150 years ago.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Posting cartoons has a lot more readable substance than your Al Sharpton rants.

Wow! Hey everyone, I think he just let us in on his issues. He understands cartoons better than he does adult language! You understand this?

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

America was segregated 50 years ago.

Inner-City black neighborhoods still have the same ****-poor schools left over from back when America was segregated.

The CIA used the crack epidemic that almost exclusively affected poor black neighborhoods to fund the contras in the 80's and early 90's.

It took the US less time to respond to the Haiti earthquakes than it did to Katrina. A lot less time. We didn't even acknowledge that the Republic of Haiti was a country (as opposed to a french territory) until the 1860's...

Innocent blacks get victimized by the police in extremely disproportionate numbers compared to all other groups combined.


The list goes on... unequal treatment certainly didn't end 150 years ago.

Exactly! Mr. Craptastic is under the impression that since we're no longer slaves, everything is just hunky-dory and we should just forget about history. Nevermind Jim Crow and the civil rights movement and lynchings and beatings and fire-hoses and systematic discrimination and...well...we get the idea. Even today discrimination still exist in forms quite different than they were 30 or 40 years ago and this is why black people haven't let go of the past Mr....the past is still following us.