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Old 10-15-2007, 09:24 PM
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San Francisco is in the eye of the beholder. Some people here will give you this super rosy lenses to view through when looking at this city, but I can tell you that this city is great for certain groups based on race, sexual orientation and economic status, which in my view is very superficial. If you do fall within an outlier group then you really need to be absolutely in a zen like buddhist mindset where nothing matters and only the best of what you see is what is real to like this place. So let's be practical, few people fall within this demographic. I read a story about an asian girl from Saratoga, Ca, a wealthy suburb of San Francisco who went to school at NYU, she was raised to believe blacks where some kind of subservient monkey race, when she got to NYU and so all the progressive intelligent blacks who where involved in every facet of campus life and therefore accepted at the school she just couldn't shake it, she couldn't come to terms with this reality, she killed herself. This is her best friend who came out with the truth of this. Tell me Bay Area folks are generally open minded if this could happen to an otherwise totally normal super intelligent human being. Why did this stroy stand out to me, because I totally felt the pulse of this kind of mentality in the Bay Area. I really hope it improves there.

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Old 10-15-2007, 11:37 PM
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I'm really sorry about your friend, but I have a feeling there's more to the story. Someone who took their life obviously had serious problems, which you may not have known about... they often keep it well hidden, even from relatives. Our race relations might not be perfect, but they're not bad enough to cause that kind of culture-shock. Most of my high school friends (of various backgrounds/races) went to college out-of-state, and none had that kind of experience! Also, many of my friends were Asian, since my school was approx. 40% Asian - and they didn't have that attitude toward Black people. Anyway, I truly am sorry for what happened to her, but please don't let that cloud your vision of the Bay Area.

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Old 10-15-2007, 11:48 PM
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I grew up in San Francisco. I attended public school from kindergarten through undergrad. First of all, be careful who you call locals. Although many people claim to be from San Francisco, they are actually from suburbs surrounding the city. I have even met 1 girl while I was living in New York City who claimed to be from San Francisco, but was actually from Visalia, which is in Central Valley. Southern California is considered a different state. The flakiest and most shallow people I have met have been in Los Angeles.
LOL... Visalia is most definitely NOT San Francisco, but I think the East Bay & Peninsula count - when speaking with people from other states. I go back east about once a year to visit relatives, and always say I'm from "San Francisco," even when I lived on the Peninsula. I doubt somebody from Worcester, Massachusetts knows where Belmont is, so it was just easier! And when I lived in Stockton, I'd just say "California, near Sacramento." Now it's nice being able to say I live in SF for real.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:11 AM
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I was born in SF, and in 38 years, I never got used to the weather. I live in suburban Chicago now and never look back. The winters can be brutal, but the glorious summers make up for it. My first impression when I came to Chicago was how polite everyone is. San Franciscans are unbelievably rude. My biggest challenge living in Chicago was learning how to behave like a normal human being. My other impression was how inexpensive everything is, compared to SF, except for fresh vegetables and seafood.

Come to Chicago, you'll love it.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:38 PM
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Welcome to our great city.

Hope you enjoy the scene and believe me your not going to starve for food een at night.

We unlike most cities can get a beef or sub a 3AM.

I never cared for SF not a bit but i felt bad for them cuz of the earthquake damage they had but they rebult so good for them.

I never figured out people why they move to these risky areas.

Even NYC is risky. Watch Day After Tomorrow. I been watching stuff in Hostory and Science channel NYC is predicted for a catagory 4 or 5 huricane.

Thats what is good about Chicago, we don't live in a risky area with earthquakes or the threat of a huricane so everyone should move to Chicago right in the middle where there safe.

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Old 10-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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Thats what is good about Chicago, we don't live in a risky area with earthquakes or the threat of a huricane so everyone should move to Chicago right in the middle where there safe.
Well, you're not entirely free of earthquakes in Chicago. Last one was in 2004. Though personally, I wouldn't worry much about an earthquake in either location.

On the topic of it being safer in Chicago.... the heat wave that hit Chicago in '95 killed 739 people and another in '99 killed 110 but the '89 earthquake in San Francisco only had 62 victims. Then of course there are blizzards. We don't have them but you guys get a good one now and again. You people are always popping off in the snow from heart attacks and traffic accidents. 73 people died directly from the '99 blizzard (granted not all from Chicago). Chicago isn't immune from tornadoes either. They're infrequent but the last killed 54 as it rolled through the suburbs and Chicago's south side. Add to all this Chicago's penchant for flooding and it seems riskier to live there if you ask me.

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Old 10-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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Welcome to our great city.

Hope you enjoy the scene and believe me your not going to starve for food een at night.

We unlike most cities can get a beef or sub a 3AM.

I never cared for SF not a bit but i felt bad for them cuz of the earthquake damage they had but they rebult so good for them.

I never figured out people why they move to these risky areas.

Even NYC is risky. Watch Day After Tomorrow. I been watching stuff in Hostory and Science channel NYC is predicted for a catagory 4 or 5 huricane.

Thats what is good about Chicago, we don't live in a risky area with earthquakes or the threat of a huricane so everyone should move to Chicago right in the middle where there safe.
Then why was my flight diverted due to a tornado last time I was supposed to fly through Chicago? Sorry, but NO place is 100% safe, and the risk of major quakes here is pretty low... I've lived here for 25 years (on & off), and have only experienced one really big quake - the 1989 Loma Prieta.

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