Is anyone as sick of SF as I am? (Los Angeles: work, humidity)

[krudmonk]

Originally Posted by Cali909

true true and thats why the population hasnt hit 1 million yet.

No, the cost of living and lack of space are why it has yet to hit a million (or come that close). You and I may not want to live there, but many people do.

[Milliano]

I wonder why there isn't more high density residential development in SF. The land values are so high, at first glance it would seem reasonable to expect a skyscraper boom by now. And thus more people would be able to live there. Chicago's land values tend to be a lot less but they have a breathtaking skyline.

[fizbin]

Originally Posted by Milliano

I wonder why there isn't more high density residential development in SF. The land values are so high, at first glance it would seem reasonable to expect a skyscraper boom by now. And thus more people would be able to live there.

The Rincon Hill project currently being built and the Transbay Terminal project in the planning stages are exactly what you are calling for. I'm not confident, based on the Rincon Hill project, that most folks would consider this affordable housing ($500,000 to $2.5 million).

Originally Posted by Milliano

Chicago's land values tend to be a lot less but they have a breathtaking skyline.

I loved a visit to Chicago, a great architectural town, but they do have those crappy winters to contend with . . .

[Jose Montara]

Haha. I feel the same sentiment about SF. I was there a year ago for a wedding. I flew in from Boston where the weather was absolutely beautiful with temperatures in the 70s. When I got to SF, for the entire weekend, it was gray and dull and temperatures never made it above 59 degrees. Talk aout SUCK. And the wedding was outdoors. You can have SF. Would NEVER live there. EVER!!! Which is how most Californians feel.

Ah yes, Boston, 90 and 90 in the summer, and in the winter the Montreal Express roars down out of the north.

When I was in the Navy I was transfered to Boston, I thought I had died and gone to hell, winter and summer.

[beone]

Originally Posted by TheRealAngelion

Haha. I feel the same sentiment about SF. I was there a year ago for a wedding. I flew in from Boston where the weather was absolutely beautiful with temperatures in the 70s. When I got to SF, for the entire weekend, it was gray and dull and temperatures never made it above 59 degrees. Talk aout SUCK. And the wedding was outdoors. You can have SF. Would NEVER live there. EVER!!! Which is how most Californians feel.

I don't buy it. 70s in Boston implies it's spring, summer or fall. While it may get very cold here late afternoon/evening in June, July and August, day time temperatures are ALWAYS above 59. If you visited in the winter, I would believe that statement. Our average high (at its lowest) is 58 degrees in January. For 10 months of the year, our average highs are above 60 degrees. Also, in the summer time it is never gray for an entire weekend. In the afternoon when the fog rolls in and covers PART of the city, yes, but never all day. You're story has plenty of holes in it.

While LA may have SF beat in weather, for my tastes, Boston does not.

[jscore]

Originally Posted by beone

I don't buy it. 70s in Boston implies it's spring, summer or fall. While it may get very cold here late afternoon/evening in June, July and August, day time temperatures are ALWAYS above 59. If you visited in the winter, I would believe that statement. Our average high (at its lowest) is 58 degrees in January. For 10 months of the year, our average highs are above 60 degrees. Also, in the summer time it is never gray for an entire weekend. In the afternoon when the fog rolls in and covers PART of the city, yes, but never all day. You're story has plenty of holes in it.

While LA may have SF beat in weather, for my tastes, Boston does not.

While I agree with your post, you're neglecting to include wind chill into the factors. Even though it maybe 60 at night in SF, if the winds are 15-20 mph (which is common), then it'll feel much colder.

[beone]

Originally Posted by jscore

While I agree with your post, you're neglecting to include wind chill into the factors. Even though it maybe 60 at night in SF, if the winds are 15-20 mph (which is common), then it'll feel much colder.

I said, "While it may get very cold here late afternoon/evening in June, July and August, day time temperatures are ALWAYS above 59." I am aware that it gets very cold, to me, in the late afternoon/evening in summer because of the cold wind preceeding the fog. However, it is ALWAYS above 59 for day time highs, wind or no wind.

[jscore]

yes, daytime you're correct.

[DMenscha]

And my favorite Mark Twain quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco"

[TheRealAngelion]

Originally Posted by beone

I don't buy it. 70s in Boston implies it's spring, summer or fall. While it may get very cold here late afternoon/evening in June, July and August, day time temperatures are ALWAYS above 59. If you visited in the winter, I would believe that statement. Our average high (at its lowest) is 58 degrees in January. For 10 months of the year, our average highs are above 60 degrees. Also, in the summer time it is never gray for an entire weekend. In the afternoon when the fog rolls in and covers PART of the city, yes, but never all day. You're story has plenty of holes in it.

While LA may have SF beat in weather, for my tastes, Boston does not.

What are you talking about? I said a year ago. And, I meant pretty much exactly a year ago. It was around middle of September. It was gray and a chilly 59 degrees the entire time. I don't care what you want to believe. I was there in the middle of Stern Grove for the wedding and experienced it for myself. Beyond that, I have been to SF many times, and the weather and fog, in general, disappoint. It's depressing. Like I said before, I would never live there. Came close a couple of years ago, but couldn't do it.