Oakland, Richmond named among the most dangerous cities (Los Angeles, San Jose: sales, apartment complex)

[City Boy]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Taboo2, you are right you can get kicked off of this post for I guess talking "Smack" which I believe you are doing. If you don't like other people's opinion or point of view it surprises me that you live in the Bay Area since it is supposed to be a liberal environment. Didn't realize everyone had to think like you.

Unlike people who have posted I don't make things up. My life experiences of where I lived and or traveled might bore some and inspire others but this is subject is not about me. It is about crime in Oakland/Richmond. Also, never said I spoke to everyone in Oakland but a lot of the people I did come into contact with had never been to SanFran and I thought that was strange. Just like the same people never went to Napa, again thought that was strange. That is my view point and my experience it doesn't have to be the same as yours. If it bothers you or others that Oakland/Richmond has problems and people like me write about it really is your problem and not mine (or you should take it up with the OP). I believe the OP brought it up to be a discussion point and not entertaining or wishful thinking about a place. Why does this subject have to be so personal? It really doesn't make sense.

LOL Stopping for a lay over at the Oakland airport does not make you a local. You've never really even been here. I don't believe you've ever lived in Oakland. People who move to Oakland know the status of parts of the city, everybody knows Oakland is not a utopia but the way you post shows everybody here you're a liar.

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Taboo2, you are right you can get kicked off of this post for I guess talking "Smack" which I believe you are doing. If you don't like other people's opinion or point of view it surprises me that you live in the Bay Area since it is supposed to be a liberal environment. Didn't realize everyone had to think like you.

I have no problem with how you think. I have no problem with what you say about oakland. That is your opinon and means nothing to me. I wrote i was sorry you had bad experiences so i am unsure as how that is talking smack. You wrote to me that i was a random act of violence with all the problems ive had in LA. perhaps that is true, but they are my experiences and they are valid.

I've also had some good times in LA. Attending MTV awards, attending the oscars, lots of backstage parties at the chateau and mondrian. Four seasons suites. But the random acts of violence stand out none the less.

My comment to you was that anyone can lie on the internet and this is obviously a fact. There is no requirement to tell the truth on here. SO I can say i lived in NYC and you have no idea if i did or i did not.

My other statement was that you are making generalizations about residents of oakland and i find that distasteful. You polled perhaps a small group of people but you made it sound like this applies to everyone in the city. The only way your statement would have been true, is if you knew every resident in the town and they told you they never go to the city. This is unlikely so i found your statement a generalization that is untrue, Kinda like LA is totally full of gangbangers.

[bayarea-girl]

Oh Cityboy, I did live in Oakland for many years. When I first got to the Bay Area I lived in Berkeley then I moved to Oakland. My college roommate had to move so I had to find my own place and I settle around Lake Merrit. Fell in love around the Lake to tell you the truth. But we were robbed many times around the Lake. Don't get me wrong I don't HATE Oakland. But there are many things that bother me about the place that either people ignore them because it doesn't affect them or they are just use to it. This post is about the crime and that is what I was mainly commenting about. If there is another post about what are your likes and dislikes about Oakland than I would say good and bad things about the place just as I would about San Francisco.

[bayarea-girl]

Taboo2, we don't have to agree with each other that is why this country is so great! It seems as though anything bad about Oakland is distasteful. That is truly unfortunate. Oakland and Richmond have a crime problem and HIV/AIDS problem that is serious is that distasteful or fact? You may not like it but it is fact.

Never said your sentiments about LA are not valid but we have been over this. Why is there a problem with saying that Oakland/Richmond have problems? Anyways, again I am repeating myself.

Anyone can lie on the internet and many do but that would be you assuming that everyone that communicates online are lying have you polled everyone online? No, but you are going off of your experience which is my point, I don't need to poll everyone in Oakland (let's make sense). It was also very interesting to me that many people that I either worked with or came into contact with in San Francisco or San Rafael where I went to school when I told them I lived in Oakland thought I was crazy and or might have gotten shot or seen a shooting. It is my experience and didn't know I had to get a poll for that. I didn't toss personal slants against anyone who disagreed with me which has not been the case since I wrote my views and challenged some of the things I read.

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Anyone can lie on the internet and many do but that would be you assuming that everyone that communicates online are lying have you polled everyone online?

I didnt say everyone online lies. I said they are perfectly capable of getting away with a lie on the internet because of obvious reasons. I didn't say i had even ever talked with a liar on the net, or would i know if i had? But that makes it still an apparent fact.

You said people in oakland never went to the city. That was a blanket statement about the residents of oakland.
The two things have nothing in common.
Sorry but that was a bad defense.



I am not fond of transplants to the area. They are biased and bring baggage with them. Asking people in San Rafael who probably aren't even from here either.

Transplants talking to transplants about cities they've never been to. SNORE

PS

Last I heard it was the African American andd hispanic community who had trouble with AIDS http://www.avert.org/statsum.htm and since there is only 31% of Oakland being African American these days I would think there are other cities with a bigger problem than Oakland. http://www.insidebayarea.com/search/...idebayarea.com.

Or is your problem with the people of color in Oakland vs. the city itself?

[baybook]

It is silly to make comments that allude to the ultimate destruction of cities like Piedmont by "Oaklanders" crossing the border.

It is also silly to continue a back and forth when neither one nor both parties wish to learn anything from the exchange. Moving on

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Baybook, not sure which part is getting silly? Is it silly to have your opinion of a place? Is it silly for people who have never lived in a place to make comments about a place? Is it silly that I have had my own experiences with Oakland and am communicating them? Is it silly for people to ignore public reports and statistics on Oakland/Richmond crime and compare it to other places that didn't make the top 10? Is it silly to say because something hasn't happened to them that a place doesn't have a problem? Whether you still want to keep saying that communicating on an open forum that ones view points are silly?

[City Boy]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Oh Cityboy, I did live in Oakland for many years. When I first got to the Bay Area I lived in Berkeley then I moved to Oakland. My college roommate had to move so I had to find my own place and I settle around Lake Merrit. Fell in love around the Lake to tell you the truth. But we were robbed many times around the Lake. Don't get me wrong I don't HATE Oakland. But there are many things that bother me about the place that either people ignore them because it doesn't affect them or they are just use to it. This post is about the crime and that is what I was mainly commenting about. If there is another post about what are your likes and dislikes about Oakland than I would say good and bad things about the place just as I would about San Francisco.

If you had just posted this at first that would have been alright, but you went on to disrespect all of us who live here and calling oakland residents "ghetto" like a sheltered private school racist. I'm done. Enjoy crime free Los Angeles.

[bayarea-girl]

CityBoy, I did post this first as I wrote about this when the post originally came out. People read what they want to read. I no longer live in LA BTW. I am the very far from being racist actually there is no way I can be.

Baybook, so is that why you keep commenting about my posts?

Taboo2, never said that all Oakland people didn't go to San Francisco and was making a point that you made about people online to relate them together as no person can ask an entire group to answer a question. Was simply communicating what others shared with me. What's the problem. I have no need to be defensive (unlike others). Don't have a problem with people of color. Also, since I worked with people who were living with HIV/AIDS I know a lot about the subject and you don't want to debate me on this one. Like I said when people point out facts it becomes a problem for Oakland lovers.

The post is about crime and not about me. So if you want to talk about facts just let me know. If people don't have problems with Oakland great no problem and if you have a problem with Oakland what is the problem. People should be able to communicate what their experience is, but it is obvious be able to do so is impossible with such passionate Oakland lovers.

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

The post is about crime and not about me. So if you want to talk about facts just let me know. If people don't have problems with Oakland great no problem and if you have a problem with Oakland what is the problem. People should be able to communicate what their experience is, but it is obvious be able to do so is impossible with such passionate Oakland lovers.

Those San Rafael people (and i say this having lived in san anselmo) better watch out.

It's suspicious.

Woman's body found in downtown San Rafael

[xxs78]

I have seen some photos of Oakland.It is a beautiful city with a nice weather...
Talk about some postive things of Oakland! what can we tell about that ?