Oakland, Richmond named among the most dangerous cities (Inglewood, Compton: apartment complex, insurance)

[bayarea-girl]

Taboo2, I don't live in San Rafael. This post is about Oakland/Richmond Crime. As I have said numerous times there is crime every where yes, but an unusual amount in Oakland. So what is your point? But guess people don't want to stick with the point about the original subject.

xxs78, that should be another thread. People should post positive things about Oakland/Richmond especially if they have actually lived there.

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Taboo2, I don't live in San Rafael. This post is about Oakland/Richmond Crime. As I have said numerous times there is crime every where yes, but an unusual amount in Oakland. So what is your point? But guess people don't want to stick with the point about the original subject.

xxs78, that should be another thread. People should post positive things about Oakland/Richmond especially if they have actually lived there.

There was some comparisons to Marin County and the East Bay. Every city has crime. That is the fact. Oakland has a ton more than MY town but that doesn't make it unsafe if you know how to behave and watch yourself. Oakland also has a MUCH larger population than my town.

Why are you still posting about a place you can't stand? You already stated you don't like Oakland and it pales in comparison in your eyes to Hell A?

[baybook]

Taboo2 - come on over to the new post and tell us what you like (if anything) about Oakland.

[bayarea-girl]

Taboo2 there was no comparison the Marin County and the East Bay. Every city has crime is what I have been saying. Oakland does have more crime than most places, yes. When you walk down a street and get robbed or worse killed by just being an innocent person on the street why would you need to know how to "watch yourself" or "behave". You are reaching to make points that don't make sense. Maybe if you write you think it is true?

I'm not a big fan on Oakland due to my experience but I don't hate the place. Again, was stating facts whether one chooses to hear them or not. I also mentioned Richmond but some how this has become about Oakland. I have mentioned experience combined with fact but some how it has become about other things. But I guess on this post everyone has to agree, maybe that is where you are coming from?

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

I also mentioned Richmond but some how this has become about Oakland.

That's because most people in the Bay Area ARE afraid of Richmond... LOL. Even I was skeptical about applying for my job here, but I'm the type of person who figures "it can't hurt to try!" Glad I did, I say as I'm sitting at my desk in Richmond right now (on my own time, before you say I'm wasting taxpayer money ).

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Taboo2 there was no comparison the Marin County and the East Bay.

You are right. Tupac was from Marin City. It must be a lovely place to live- never any crime there. HA HA. Ever been there? Nah, because if you had you would already know.

You really should defer to people who know more than you do about the bay area and neighborhoods of Oakland and other local cities who have ALSO lived in other cities around the world. People who have lived in many different locations in the bay area are aware of the fact that Oakland has it's bad parts, but it has JUST as many good parts. But you wouldn't know that because you probably never left your house out of fear. I used to go running at the lake. NEVER saw ANYONE get victimized once. I took my dog to the vet over on Hegenberger, never had any trouble there. And my experiences go on and on and on.

I also mentioned Richmond but some how this has become about Oakland. I have mentioned experience combined with fact but some how it has become about other things

I used to drive through richmond to get to the San Rafael bridge before there was a direct freeway there and we definitely would lock our doors. Here is the difference. Richmond doesn't have anything really NICE there to offset the bad. They have a marina i think but it's not much to look at. Oakland does. Emeryville is better. (and even that was horrid for many years.)

When you walk down a street and get robbed or worse killed by just being an innocent person on the street why would you need to know how to "watch yourself" or "behave". You are reaching to make points that don't make sense. Maybe if you write you think it is true?

Is this something you think is only happenning in Oakland? It happened to me in Westwood. It almost happened to my husband in Monrovia.

That happens in LA. That happens IN SF. That happens in Chicago. That happens in Dallas. That happens in Sacramento. That happens in Miami. That happens in NYC. That happens in Boston. That happens in Las Vegas. That happens in New Orleans. That happens in St. Louis. and on and on and on.

That happens in EVERY LARGE CITY.

Why would you need to how to watch out for yourself? Because no matter WHERE You are, you should be aware of your surroundings. If you are a attractive woman you would already know that no matter what city you are in, you should be aware of what is going on around you. DUH.

That is why It is probably safer to be in Oakland. You are aware of your surroundings. In San Leandro/El Cerrito/Larkspur/Colma/San Jose/ Fremont/WESTWOOD/MONROVIA you may be lulled into a false sense of security and get yr head knocked in. It happens.

MOVE ON.

[bayarea-girl]

Taboo2, I think you should just move on. It is a bit ridiculous. I didn't do a crime analysis of all of the states in the United States and find Oakland and Richmond in the top 10. I didn't do a crime analysis and found that in California Oakland has the highest racking of crime for the entire state. I am not responsible for the reputation Oakland has. As I have said numerous times every where has crime but Oakland has an unusual amount of crime and of which I experienced first hand. I'm not sure where the problem is? Although, many like or love Oakland doesn't mean that it's problems should be ignored.

Good luck to you. You can keep writing back and forth but I'm sure it is getting rather boring for others. Although, you have yet to bring up good or relevant points I just won't respond to your comments.

[Taboo2]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

As I have said numerous times every where has crime but Oakland has an unusual amount of crime and of which I experienced first hand. I'm not sure where the problem is? Although, many like or love Oakland doesn't mean that it's problems should be ignored.

Sure Oakland has a decent crime rate, being 5th in the nation is quite an accomplishment for the criminal element in town. But this statistic is why you are aware of what neighborhoods you are travelling in. It is irresponsible of someone to not to be aware of their surroundings and the activitiy going on.

I guess my problem is that the sketchy parts of town are not where i personally hang out these days, and believe it or not, crime doesn't really travel to where i do.

None of my friends have ever been robbed or burglarized, car jacked, raped, or victimized and this includes the edes neighborhood people, the fruitvale neighborhood people, the park blvd people and the high street/foothill people the grand lake people the lake merrit people and the lakeside people, not to mention all of us who go there for day trips.

There is crime - but it just doesnt affect everyone the way you think it does.

Most of the time, it is criminal on criminal crime. Once in awhile a stray bullet hits a kid playing piano in piedmont, but otherwise it doesn't affect most of us.

Pretty much the bad things don't outweigh all the great things in the city, and frankly since i have never been a victim of a crime there in the 35 years i have been going there, than I am able to say perhaps someone did something to bring attention to themselves, or place themselves in a situation they should not have been in, or failed to notice their surroundings and take precautions. Because I have managed to not be a victim there for many many MANY years. Everyone is responsible for the own actions and lack of action.

You barely lived here and were very unlucky when you did.

I have to wonder, Perhaps it was your associates or yourself that attracted the criminal elements attention. Perhaps it was your attitude that got you in trouble up here. Perhaps it was not noticing your surroundings.

There are many factors as to why people are MARKS.

[bayarea-girl]

Taboo2, said I wasn't going to reply to you but here we go... For any body to commit crime against another person is NEVER acceptable. What are you saying? First of all, I am far from the criminal type and don't know people that are. Secondly, I witnessed and stopped a lady from being beat up and robbed (they managed to steal her purse and jewelry), not acceptable. My husband went into a our apartment complex "secure" garage only to find a criminal in his car with a gun asking him if he had a problem, again NOT acceptable. Our apartment in the same complex was robbed while we were at work, not acceptable (my wedding ring was stolen). My car that I parked outside in the morning for 30 minutes was stolen right out side of my apartment building. A man running away from the police managed to hit about 20 cars on the street, where my husband and neighbor had to chase the guy down. I knew people that were transgender that were either bit up or killed. This all happened in Oakland around Lake Merrit. How long does one have to live in an area to be an expert? You don't make sense and are part of the problem Oakland faces. If you have only traveled to the bridge and back through Richmond why are you commenting. There are nice places in Richmond as there are of Oakland but unfortunately the bad out ways the good.

Again, best of luck to you.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Never said that MC Hammer lived in the Oakland Hills. Maybe people have forgotten how to read. Only mentioned Hammer because #1 he didn't choose to build a home in Oakland (wonder why)?

Its easier to get away with garrish home designs in the suburbs.

Although the economy is going down the crapper places such as the Oakland Hills which prices increased during the crazy housing market it has not kept it's value.

Actually prices are declining everywhere. And Oakland was always the last place in the Bay Area to go 'crazy' as far as home prices rising in the bay area. True there is a slowdown but that's happening everywhere. On the flipside actual home sales are up nearly 50% in Oakland over the last year.

Not like San Francisco has nor Beverly Hills and or other places in California.

Yes but that most certainly does not mean that BH is a better place to live than the Oakland Hills-in fact, I absolutely think its a much less desirable place to live for a person of reasonable intelligence or at least someone that is interested in stimulating conversation. Vapidity is so passe.

Not sure where some of you are pulling stats from but here you go I'm not afraid of revealing my source (instead of making things up):

The Census Bureau. Dont be upset just because Oakland in fact attracts a lot of rich and highly educated people. I realize that points out a serious flaw in your argument that its all going downhill in Oakland but oh well, consider yourself more informed on what Oakland is really like.

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