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12-17-2008, 01:51 PM
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18Montclair, what is ignorant that I say that I point out that Oakland has crime or I say it isn't that bad? I can pot the incidents that Piedmont has been experiencing but I thought most people either read or watch the news.
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12-17-2008, 01:53 PM
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Yeah but you cant deny whats going on. The mayor needs to start doing SOMETHING.
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Oh he is, and its pretty ambitious.
Oakland mayor touts 'unprecedented' renewal plan, but he's light on details - Inside Bay Area
Im not so much disturbed by crime, which seems to rise and fall like the overall economy, but I am more interested in development in Oakland.
Jerry Brown really elevated Oakland's Downtown to a much higher level of viability as a place people would want not only to do business in but also LIVE.
Now Dellums(To be honest, Im not a fan and would still prefer De La Fuente) is taking Brown's development momentum and taking to a higher level with a very ambitious plan to redevelop a whopping 470 city blocks.
That's what Im interested in. Seeing change-As far as Oakland goes, Crime is secondary to me and always has been.
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The city needs alot of restructuring.
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No, not really. From a budget perspective, SF is much worse off. |
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12-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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DJRey, but what happen the year before and the years before that? Yes there should be a solution but this is not the only year in which Oakland had crime problems.
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12-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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DJRay -- How long have you lived in Oakland?
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I grew up in SF and Hayward and some other places. Why? you need to pull my card? |
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12-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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18Montclair, what is ignorant that I say that I point out that Oakland has crime or I say it isn't that bad?
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Real Oaklanders know better. |
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12-17-2008, 01:57 PM
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I grew up in SF and South Hayward. Why? you need to pull my card?
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No... just wondering how many cycles you'd been through when it came to Oakland. Thanks!  |
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12-17-2008, 01:59 PM
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18Montclair, if crime is still a problem then it will plague any development. Dellums, I am sure is light on details about this new project but I doubt it will happen any time soon as CA has such a huge deficit.
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12-17-2008, 02:01 PM
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18Montclair, well I am proud not to be a "Real Oaklander". Love the Raiders though.
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12-17-2008, 02:12 PM
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18Montclair, well I am proud not to be a "Real Oaklander".
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So am I. |
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12-30-2008, 09:50 PM
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