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03-16-2009, 10:38 PM
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How is this area of Oakland?
How is the area in terms of safety? The area of Oakland I am looking at
is 68th Ave, east of Downtown. Basically, we need something that is
near to reliable public transportation for now, with a basic grocery store within walking distance.
What are the nice, safe areas to live in Oakland? And the economy..
how is it for accountant types , asssistant teachers, and entertainment agents? Thanks .
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03-17-2009, 01:18 AM
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more info please. budget? children? what do you want nightlife ?parks? both? do you need to be near bart?
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03-17-2009, 01:20 AM
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more info please. budget? children? what do you want nightlife ?parks? both? do you need to be near bart?
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Gee, I thought that was enough. Well, the house near 68th is within my price range.. and yes, I need to be near bart or public transport.
The other condition is being near to shopping or at least a grocery store, that's it. Thanks.
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03-17-2009, 02:26 AM
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It helps to provide as much information as you can so that people can share ideas and concerns with you---for instance, there are lots of places that are near shopping and public transportation that are not especially nice (or safe) places to live by many standards. What are some other places you consider nice and safe, as reference points? 68th Avenue is also a long street: one end of it is in Millsmont. The other end of it is at International, which are two very different neighborhoods. Without knowing where along 68th or what your level of comfort is, it's hard to suggest much. The one thing I can say is that there are not many full-service grocery stores in that part of Oakland, so you may have to drive or take transit for that. Someone living near there may be able to suggest one, though.
Try posting a little bit about where you're coming from, what you like in a home, where you'll be working, etc. People ask about children and jobs not to be nosy, but because that affects where a good place to live might be (do you need good schools? how long a commute are you willing to have?) Then you'll find that you'll have lots of responses. Good luck with your move!
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Gee, I thought that was enough. Well, the house near 68th is within my price range.. and yes, I need to be near bart or public transport.
The other condition is being near to shopping or at least a grocery store, that's it. Thanks.
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03-17-2009, 11:07 AM
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Not my favorite area. The worst would be near International and Seminary.. the flatlands have their good qualities, but if you live there, you do so realizing that many people living there around you are dirt poor and have a bleak future ahead of them, and their kids are disproportionately at risk for recruitment by gangs. That's the reality of Oakland.
Edit: East of MacArthur is better. It's still hardly immune from crime, but it's a nice block and there are some good views of the city.
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03-17-2009, 12:28 PM
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Not my favorite area. The worst would be near International and Seminary.. the flatlands have their good qualities, but if you live there, you do so realizing that many people living there around you are dirt poor and have a bleak future ahead of them, and their kids are disproportionately at risk for recruitment by gangs. That's the reality of Oakland.
Edit: East of MacArthur is better. It's still hardly immune from crime, but it's a nice block and there are some good views of the city.
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Reality of Oakland? What gangs are you talking about? Latino Gangs? Unless you're Latino, gangs are the least of your problems. Oakland is not Compton, there is no constant gang recruitment. lol. People make their own choices there are no neighborhoods where you're affiliated with a gang by residence like in parts of LA. I don't know why some of you on here think Oakland is gang land aside from Latino Gangs who kill each other for the most part .
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03-17-2009, 12:42 PM
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Reality of Oakland? What gangs are you talking about? Latino Gangs? Unless you're Latino, gangs are the least of your problems. Oakland is not Compton, there is no constant gang recruitment. lol. People make their own choices there are no neighborhoods where you're affiliated with a gang by residence like in parts of LA. I don't know why some of you on here think Oakland is gang land aside from Latino Gangs who kill each other for the most part .
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So there isn't a single black gang in Oakland, particularly East Oakland. Not one. Seriously.
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03-17-2009, 12:47 PM
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So there isn't a single black gang in Oakland, particularly East Oakland. Not one. Seriously.
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I didn't say there wasn't one. But it's not enough to make gangs a "reality of Oakland". Drugs are the problem in the Black community here not Gangs. Drug dealers. I know the police likes to classified groups of 4 or more males "a gang", but they are not Gang Members. They are drug dealers.
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03-17-2009, 01:47 PM
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Yeah as far as the Bay Area goes, there aren't any black gangs, at least not in the sense that most people think. There are no bloods or crips, and nothing else n the same vein. Black "gangs" in the Bay Area tend to be kids who grew up on the same block or in the same project, etc, and started selling drugs/doing dirt together, and watching each other's backs. Authorities call them gangs, but aside from a name for their set/group of people, it's not organized at all really. Black "gangs" in the Bay Area rep their set, not colors or anything. You can be part of a "gang" simply by living in the same neighborhood...as far as rival "gangs" go, you can be an enemy, guilty by association just for living in a certain area.
The only real gangs we have in the bay area in any numbers are the latino ones like nortenos, surenos, and MS-13, and some asian ones as well.
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03-17-2009, 03:29 PM
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Bay Area black men are much too independent to succumb to that, gang crap, but I'd bet a lot of them flirted with it as youths before they reached full manhood. Independent men might form alliances for financial reasons, legal and non, but violence isn't lucrative enough to justify the risks involved.
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