Sad in Seattle...San Francisco or San Diego?? (San Jose, Long Beach: buy, good schools)

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Originally Posted by tstieber

Who said everywhere in SD is far from each other? That would be one thing I don't agree with at all. SD is much more compact than the Bay Area. Nothing seems to be more than 15-20 minutes away. In the Bay Area, you can drive for an hour to get somewhere. I'd say SD wins in that category.

yeah, because there's no traffic and that's 15-20 minutes which equate to 15-20 miles. everywhere you go, you have to drive. don't tell me about all this small little walkable neighborhoods. i am talking about SF, not the Bay Area. aren't we talking about cities?

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Originally Posted by NorthSDLifer

Ugly? Yikes. What do you think of Kensington? I admit to not being terribly cultured, but what is it about the museums that they suck? Unimaginative collections?

"Everywhere in SD is so far from each other."

If on a bigger scale, you can say the same for L.A.

Kensington is nice but not enough amenities. We ate there this weekend at Burger Lounge, and walked about ten blocks east and west, no amenities to be found. Cute houses and clean, but not enough amenities.

Have you checked out the museums? I can paint them myself, LOL. That's how terrible the art selections there. What do you think when the city is conservative which means art is not appreciated there.

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Originally Posted by summertime25

This pretty much sums up San Diego. I moved here over a year ago because of the weather but failed to recognize the lack of culture this city has to offer compared to a world class city. San Diego is very conservative and has a small town military feel. If you are young and liberal, DO NOT MOVE HERE. You will regret it. In fact, I find that most of the people who live in San Diego fall into one of the following categories:
1) Military
2) Retired
3) College students (who party there asses off)
4) Mid-west/east coast transplants (like myself) who are looking for better weather and quality life who tend to move away from here after a few years.
5) Locals who know absolutely no life outside of SD.

As you can see by this list, not a whole lot of diversity....

On the flip side, you go to a major city with some sort of industry/culture/draw and you'll find so much more oppurtunity and diversity.

As for the weather, the weather in San Diego is beautiful, but the scenery is too arid for me. Drive 15 miles east of the coast and you are practically in the desert. Don't get me wrong, I love the sun and warm climate but I'd prefer more rain in the winter (which NoCal gets) in order to see some more greenery and taller trees.

You described the people here in SD to the T. I totally agree. And yes there are liberals here, but diluted by all the lifted trucks, meatheads, conservatives, and elder people. There was this one day in downtown SD, there was this van that has this banner draped across the side that says "Gay is a Sin". This van was going through the blocks to show this.

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Originally Posted by sav858

You really love to generalize SD a little too much, especially with the people. Maybe you just don't get out much or something but most people I know don't fall into any of those categories you mentioned. I'm young and liberal, born and raised in the Bay Area, and moved here 8 years ago and love it. The only people that think SD is "very conservative" are usually the bad ultra-left wing stereotypes, which you will find all over the Bay Area, so you're looking in the right place for that.

I find the types of people, their values, mentality, etc... to more diverse than the Bay Area and that seems to bother those that prefer only being around people like them. Of course if you're really liberal and into that psuedo-intellectual vibe then you'll love it in the Bay Area, so many people there are so similar and share a common mentality but that's not diversity imo.

Most of the people I've met who have settled in SD seem to be from the east coast/mid west more times than not and have been here for over 10 years with no plans to leave. Once again, you must not get out much and meet many people.

I just don't get it with people like you who move to a laid back, resort type city but expect it to be some cultural hub & world class city with the best weather and beaches. No place even exists like that in the country.

I thought the point is to compare cities, small or large, nice or ugly. LA, SF and SD all got incorporated around the same time, but ask yourself this question, "how come SD is still behind?"

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Originally Posted by ubringliten

I thought the point is to compare cities, small or large, nice or ugly. LA, SF and SD all got incorporated around the same time, but ask yourself this question, "how come SD is still behind?"

I think an objective, rational person would make a FAIR comparison to start and put things into perspective, but some people aren't like that obviously and only see things their way.

Do you know anything about the history of CA? Just b/c a city was "settled" at the same time didn't mean they DEVELOPED at the same time. SD wasn't really a major city until after WWII while SF was one before the start of the 20th century. This little thing called the "Gold Rush" played a big part of that.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by ubringliten

You described the people here in SD to the T. I totally agree. And yes there are liberals here, but diluted by all the lifted trucks, meatheads, conservatives, and elder people.

gee a little judgmental with the stereotypes there, but you see what you want to see.

There was this one day in downtown SD, there was this van that has this banner draped across the side that says "Gay is a Sin". This van was going through the blocks to show this.

I've seen that same type of thing in the Bay Area before including in the City, you honestly think stupid crap like that is unique to SD? Who even lets that crap get to them anyways?

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Originally Posted by sav858

I think an objective, rational person would make a FAIR comparison to start and put things into perspective, but some people aren't like that obviously and only see things their way.

Do you know anything about the history of CA? Just b/c a city was "settled" at the same time didn't mean they DEVELOPED at the same time. SD wasn't really a major city until after WWII while SF was one before the start of the 20th century. This little thing called the "Gold Rush" played a big part of that.

Oh please...next, you're going to say LA is big because entertainment. Republicans in SD have always kept this town small. Doesn't 50K-100K military personnels here support by the government through all those years and still it did not propel the city of SD? History or not, we're comparing cities and that's what the original poster asked SD vs SF.

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Originally Posted by sav858

gee a little judgmental with the stereotypes there, but you see what you want to see.
I've seen that same type of thing in the Bay Area before including in the City, you honestly think stupid crap like that is unique to SD? Who even lets that crap get to them anyways?

Why are you still comparing Bay Area to SD, when the topic at hand is about SF vs SD?

Maybe you don't see it because you don't mind it.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by ubringliten

Oh please...next, you're going to say LA is big because entertainment. Republicans in SD have always kept this town small. Doesn't 50K-100K military personnels here support by the government through all those years and still it did not propel the city of SD? History or not, we're comparing cities and that's what the original poster asked SD vs SF.

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It's big because of the PORT, or at least that is one of the catalyst that propelled it to be a bigger city than SD early on. The railroad too played a big role in LA's development. There are many reasons SD is much smaller and it has nothing to do with "republicans". SD has always had boosters trying to expand the city but it was hard to compete with LA. Go learn some CA history if you want to know more why LA is much bigger than SD.

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Originally Posted by ubringliten

Why are you still comparing Bay Area to SD, when the topic at hand is about SF vs SD?

Maybe you don't see it because you don't mind it.

SF=Bay Area
SD=SD County

Do you never leave the city limits of SD or SF? We are comparing the general regions and not just some slice of land inside imaginary boundaries. Does it really make a difference here? get real.

I see it but it's not the majority of people that are like that and they do not bother me b/c I am not so close minded and judgmental as some, especially those that seem to think the only good people are "liberals" and that looks at crap that way.