Oakland Considering Filing Bankruptcy (Los Angeles, San Diego: wage, live in, military)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

That tends to happen in places where the bad outweights the good by a ton. Chicago, NYC, BOSTON, the good outweighs the bad.

Boston doesnt have much of a negative stigma, but Chicago and New York do have horrible reputations in the minds of many, many Americans.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

Good to see the property values in Oakland are starting to deflate to a price that they should actually be worth.

I still wish Oakland was as dirt cheap on average as Chicago. One can only dream.

[sonarrat]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Boston doesnt have much of a negative stigma, but Chicago and New York do have horrible reputations in the minds of many, many Americans.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

People only hate Boston if they have to drive in it.

[ssmaster]

baydude -this is a late respononse but that map was all oakland.this constant bashing of oakland by people who do not know the city is bizarre

[City Boy]

LOL at Chicago not having a negative Image. Chicago has an extremely high crime rate. I take it you've never been there. NYC is not exactly what I'd call "Safe" either. There's more to NY than Mid Town. Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, not exactly crime free.

[Ultrarunner]

Oakland is 400k + How many people live in New York, Boston and Chicago?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Oakland is 400k + How many people live in New York, Boston and Chicago?

More than you want moving to California!

[BayDude]

Montclair, you think I can't do math? I guess you were hoping that I could'nt. Lets take a deeper look at those
misleading numbers:

2.East Bay Cities by the Number of Households Earning $200,000+ Annually
Oakland 8,985
Fremont 7,147
Pleasanton 4,440
Berkeley 3,757
Concord 2,348
Alameda 1,941
Richmond 1,281
Hayward 1,079

Heres the calculated approximate percentages as % of the population with incomes over $200,000

Oakland 8,985 420,183 2.17%
Fremont 7,147 211,000 3.44%
Pleasanton 4,440 66,544 7.14% LOL
Berkeley 3,757 102,743 3.70%
Concord 2,348 121,780 1.90%
Alameda 1,941 72,259 2.70%
Richmond 1,281 103,468 1.25%
Hayward 1,079 155,312 .69%

As you can see, Oakland has one one the lowest percentages of household incomes over $200,000 relative to population, only higher than richmond (lol), hayward and concord. And did you honestly think there were more rich as a percentage of population than Pleasanton? They have an astounding 7.14% rich ROFL. The median household income for the entire city of Pleasanton (not neighborhoods lol) is $101,022. You also said there were more rich in Oakland than Berkeley. In terms of absolute numbers yes, as a percentage no. Every other city (as expected) has more rich folks by percentage. The number you posted for Oakland was misleading because of Oaklands relatively high population. But make no mistake its still one of the poorest cities in california.

Oakland FAIL once again lol.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by BayDude

Montclair, you think I can't do math? I guess you were hoping that I could'nt. Lets take a deeper look at those
misleading numbers:

Heres the calculated approximate percentages as % of the population with incomes over $200,000

As you can see, Oakland has one one the lowest percentages of household incomes over $200,000 relative to population, only higher than richmond (lol), hayward and concord. And did you honestly think there were more rich as a percentage of population than Pleasanton? They have an astounding 7.14% rich ROFL. The median household income for the entire city of Pleasanton (not neighborhoods lol) is $101,022. You also said there were more rich in Oakland than Berkeley. In terms of absolute numbers yes as a percentage no. Every other city (as expected) has more rich folks by percentage. The number you posted for Oakland was misleading because of Oaklands relatively high population. But make no mistake its still one of the poorest cities in california.

Oakland FAIL once again lol.

Actually Einstein you made a very, very serious mistake. The sort of flaw that deems stats useless.

You should be dividing by the number of households, not the total population.

LOL

Next.

[18Montclair]

Here's Oakland compared to the 10 Safest Cities in California in 2 very impressive factors.

% of Households Earning $200,000+ Annually, 2007
11. Irvine 12.1%
2. Mission Viejo 10.7%
32. Huntington Beach 9.9%
13. Chino Hills 8.8%
37. Orange 8.7%
31. Simi Valley 8.7%
12. Lake Forest 7.4%
5. Oakland 6.0%
18. Thousand Oaks 5.3%
30. Glendale 5.4%
40. Santa Clarita 4.4%

Adults Age 25+ With Graduate Degree, 2007
11. Irvine 25.6%
18. Thousand Oaks 19.2%
2. Mission Viejo 16.5%
5. Oakland 15.5%
32. Huntington Beach 13.8%
30. Glendale 11.8%
13. Chino Hills 11.6%
12. Lake Forest 11.6%
37. Orange 10.2%
40. Santa Clarita 9.4%
31. Simi Valley 8.8%

Don't hate, Congratulate.