Oakland Considering Filing Bankruptcy (Sacramento, Montclair: real estate, houses, buy)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Well, I'm white, born in San Diego, raised off-and-on (military family) in Orange County -- Newport Beach to be exact -- fiscally conservative, socially moderate and not a member of any party. My life's just fine too!

Yes, that goes without saying.

Newport Beach is synonymous with conservativism and wealth. Oakland is not synonymous with wealth but there are many, many wealthy households in this city-most don't know that.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Yes, that goes without saying.

Newport Beach is synonymous with conservativism and wealth. Oakland is not synonymous with wealth but there are many, many wealthy households in this city-most don't know that.

Back in 1952, Newport Beach was a great place for young families. My father was a career Marine Corps officer and in the day they earned next to nothing so I decidedly did not grow up in a rich household.

My observation is that you spend far more time comparing relative incomes and educational levels than such an unimportant factor merits. It is not necessarily an overriding issue or mark when determining livability of anyplace. All have the Haves and the Have Nots. Oakland Hills is not indicative of the issues faced by downtown Oakland or some of its neighborhoods.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Back in 1952, Newport Beach was a great place for young families. My father was a career Marine Corps officer and in the day they earned next to nothing so I decidedly did not grow up in a rich household.

My observation is that you spend far more time comparing relative incomes and educational levels than such an unimportant factor merits. It is not necessarily an overriding issue or mark when determining livability of anyplace. All have the Haves and the Have Nots. Oakland Hills is not indicative of the issues faced by downtown Oakland or some of its neighborhoods.

Oakland Hills and Downtown appear to be doing just fine as is the area around Jack London Square...

The area that has been having a rough go is out in the Avenues... all the way to the San Leandro Border.. at least this is my perspective.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Oakland Hills and Downtown appear to be doing just fine as is the area around Jack London Square...

The area that has been having a rough go is out in the Avenues... all the way to the San Leandro Border.. at least this is my perspective.

Then I stand quasi-corrected. Been awhile since I ventured there.

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Speaking of Counties, California's Richest are almost all Liberal.

2007
Median Family Income
Marin $104,830
Santa Clara $99,972
San Mateo $97,137
Contra Costa $86,709
Alameda $83,769
Orange $83,015
San Francisco $82,320
Ventura $80,793
Santa Cruz $80,045

2007
Average Annual Wage Per Job
Santa Clara $82,003
San Francisco $75,102
San Mateo $71,517
Alameda $58,014
Contra Costa $55,293
Marin $54,733
Orange $50,737
Los Angeles $50,441
Sacramento $48,491
Ventura $47,875

The cost of living is also higher in almost all the liberal counties so you don't have much of a point. The cost of living in the Bay Area is legendary. Local wages have to compensate.

Adjust earnings to living costs and your point is moot.

And stats prove that life for many of us who arent republican conservatives actually is great.

In low crime liberal cities like San Jose life is wonderful, I'm sure.

I'm pretty sure that was mentioned because Bay Dude claims to be Black and is obviously not.

LMAO guy, ok who am I to believe me or you? Hint: not you.

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Being a white republican male from Orange County, Im sure that makes you proud.

I'm a black, independant voter from the Bay Area. It makes me tremendously proud.

[baybook]

Why encourage this guy?

If people dont want to live here, that's their right and frankly, good riddance. Who needs that type of crowd??? Black, White, Greek... still a tool.

The Ignore feature is a powerfull tool

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by BayDude

I'm a black, independant voter from the Bay Area.

*yawns*

Sure, whatever you say buddy.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

The area that has been having a rough go is out in the Avenues... all the way to the San Leandro Border.. at least this is my perspective.

Even there, it seems to be block-by-block.

For example, driving along Seminary below Macarthur can be seen as hairy but turn at Picardy Dr or Morse Dr and suddenly its very quiet and the homes are immaculate.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

...but turn at Picardy Dr or Morse Dr and suddenly its very quiet and the homes are immaculate.

And let me guess, all the women are strong, all the men are good looking and all the children are exceptional!