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06-15-2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nmnita
you are right about most of what you say. Those who do not take care of themselves and that probably refers to many of us expect to be given free or close to free medical care. Bull. I won't tackle that one right now. As for the way we eat, I really think it is more the way we don't exercise than the way we eat. Because I love to cook and did major in foods and nuitrition I am very much aware of bad versus good. Even if I graduated 50 years ago, I keep up with the trends and studies. I also admit I eat too much, too much meat and probably too much fat. Sugar isn't a problem except for the sugar I get in my daily wine (     ) Processed foods are not part of my weekly shopping, but I do think they are a huge culprit...We have to remember mom is now working just like dad and it is late when they get home. Processed foods and/or order in is much quicker than starting from scratch, cooking.
When we were living in No Va, I thought a cooking class for low income families. It was cooking on a budget. Well I did it for one semester, end, no more. Those who attended (not too many) could have cared less how to cook healthy on a budget: use a crock pot, throw out the grease, learn to cook veggies for only a few minutes, use hot dogs as a treat only, just to mention a couple of things, these women were on food stamps and wink but still didn't really care. Most were not working, thus they certainly had time to prepare healthy foods at a low cost. The thought of using Yugart and not using pre-sweeten cereals was a joke to them, no chips, are you kidding?
Back to the exercising thing: when my kids were little we didn't have a dryer, or didn't for years, think of the calories burned just bending over, taking the cloths out of the basket and hanging them on the line: we ironed everything or almost, including sheets. Of course no remote control, we either watched the same channel all night or got up and switched channels, many families had only one car so we all did a lot more walking. i could go on and on. These were little things, but they were exercise...
Now that I have spouted off enough I will make only one more comment before I fix a healthy dinner tonight, I like Outback for the money. I don't think it is all that pricey. Cheap, no, but hey, it is pretty good, just don't waste the calories, fat and money on the bloomin Onion.   
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I miss onion rings.... they make me SO sick...
People don't accept change easily and do not want to be different. Choosing yogurt over potato chips is weird. (heck -- choosing what they call yogurt which is all sugar isn't all that good for you either)
And people want something easy and tastes good. I have friends whose kids only eat crap, and tons of it. At four, they mainline soda pop, and wouldn't drink milk if their lives depended on it.
Once her older son came here and he was hungry, so I made him a sandwich, using homemade bread. He'd never seen homemade bread. I asked him if wanted water, juice or milk to drink. He wanted pop, and was amazed that we didn't have any. I compromised and asked if he wanted hot cocoa.
He said yes. I pulled out a sauce pan, and heated up the milk, added a couple spoons of sugar, a tiny pinch of salt, a heaping spoon of Hershey's cocoa and a drop of vanilla. I frothed it up well... and we had a cup of real homemade cocoa... not from a mix.
He talked about that cocoa for MONTHS and his mother couldn't be bothered. She asked about the Hershey's cocoa and I said well -- it's a staple. Sometimes I want to make brownies, sometimes I want to make cookies -- or chocolate frosting. What do you do for that?
A mix or a can.... all premade.
It's sad on one hand -- but I get it. I remember my little niece watching Sesame Street one day, and they were talking and showing about where milk comes from.
Her eyes got as big as saucers, and the color drained out of her face and she turned to her mom and said -- in a declarative sentence -- Mom, we get our milk from the Shop and Save. Our milk comes from the Shop and Save."
My sister took one look and realized that kid would never drink milk again if she told the truth. So she did what mothers do everywhere -- she lied -- and said yes -- their milk comes from the Shop and Save and NOT cows.
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06-15-2009, 10:40 PM
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NOOOO! 
I love TGI's! I have been meaning to go there to get my friend macaroni...I guess I better go sooner than I was planning to...but that's too bad...
I guess its HELLO to BJ's Brewhouse now...
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06-15-2009, 11:06 PM
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Living in the Bay Area there is no reason to go to or mourn a TGIFs or Chilis or whatever. But I find both serve a valuable service: when out in the California boonies (Sacramento, Fresno) they were two of the very few sit-down places that serve food late at night (after 10pm). I go to track and field meets that end at 9:30-10:30 in towns such as these and finding a place to get anything that is not stictly fast food at that time of night can be a problem.
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06-16-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tallysmom
I miss onion rings.... they make me SO sick...
People don't accept change easily and do not want to be different. Choosing yogurt over potato chips is weird. (heck -- choosing what they call yogurt which is all sugar isn't all that good for you either)
And people want something easy and tastes good. I have friends whose kids only eat crap, and tons of it. At four, they mainline soda pop, and wouldn't drink milk if their lives depended on it.
Once her older son came here and he was hungry, so I made him a sandwich, using homemade bread. He'd never seen homemade bread. I asked him if wanted water, juice or milk to drink. He wanted pop, and was amazed that we didn't have any. I compromised and asked if he wanted hot cocoa.
He said yes. I pulled out a sauce pan, and heated up the milk, added a couple spoons of sugar, a tiny pinch of salt, a heaping spoon of Hershey's cocoa and a drop of vanilla. I frothed it up well... and we had a cup of real homemade cocoa... not from a mix.
He talked about that cocoa for MONTHS and his mother couldn't be bothered. She asked about the Hershey's cocoa and I said well -- it's a staple. Sometimes I want to make brownies, sometimes I want to make cookies -- or chocolate frosting. What do you do for that?
A mix or a can.... all premade.
It's sad on one hand -- but I get it. I remember my little niece watching Sesame Street one day, and they were talking and showing about where milk comes from.
Her eyes got as big as saucers, and the color drained out of her face and she turned to her mom and said -- in a declarative sentence -- Mom, we get our milk from the Shop and Save. Our milk comes from the Shop and Save."
My sister took one look and realized that kid would never drink milk again if she told the truth. So she did what mothers do everywhere -- she lied -- and said yes -- their milk comes from the Shop and Save and NOT cows.
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Great examples of how kids today eat, the story about your niece and probably makes good sense. Heck, my 22 year old granddaughter was here about 2 months ago and I showed her the veggie garden I had just planted; I mentioned we throw our potato skins, orange peels etc into the compost pile plus add leaves and put everything in the garbage. her comment, yuk, you put garbage in your garden. That is plain gross!!! It never dawned on her what the pig eats before it is slaughtered and is her ham (her favorite meat) or what else is used to help the veggies grow. I guess she never thought about it before.
Nita 
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06-16-2009, 11:33 AM
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Pennsylvanian from 1738
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Originally Posted by nmnita
Great examples of how kids today eat, the story about your niece and probably makes good sense. Heck, my 22 year old granddaughter was here about 2 months ago and I showed her the veggie garden I had just planted; I mentioned we throw our potato skins, orange peels etc into the compost pile plus add leaves and put everything in the garbage. her comment, yuk, you put garbage in your garden. That is plain gross!!! It never dawned on her what the pig eats before it is slaughtered and is her ham (her favorite meat) or what else is used to help the veggies grow. I guess she never thought about it before.
Nita 
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I'm a janitor at a condo complex and people get so insanely freaky about garbage. I had one woman who was sanitization crazy want the trash chutes steam cleaned constantly to get rid of germs. My daily disinfectant/deodorizer spray wasn't enough.
I told her that garbage was the end result of her dinner last night. HA -- she didn't like that!
It's a natural part of our existance. Ever since humans have lived in any sort of community there has been a waste dump incorporated into that living site.
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06-16-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fizbin
Living in the Bay Area there is no reason to go to or mourn a TGIFs or Chilis or whatever. But I find both serve a valuable service: when out in the California boonies (Sacramento, Fresno) they were two of the very few sit-down places that serve food late at night (after 10pm). I go to track and field meets that end at 9:30-10:30 in towns such as these and finding a place to get anything that is not stictly fast food at that time of night can be a problem.
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Not just the so called boonies. It's not as if the entire metro here has places open until midnight or later. Even when we lived in the Sunset the sidewalks largely rolled up at 9PM, or latest, 10PM. On the Peninsula it's rare to find places other than Denny's or IHOP open late. We have our short list.
To each his own, personally, us old hayseed Bay Area bourgeois hicks miss our chain places.
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06-16-2009, 11:55 AM
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TGIF, Applebees, Chilis, Bennigans... pretty much are the same, something needs to GO!
I think Bennigans closed many locations, TGIF next...
2/4 isn't bad for these places.
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06-16-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach50
TGIF, Applebees, Chilis, Bennigans... pretty much are the same, something needs to GO!
I think Bennigans closed many locations, TGIF next...
2/4 isn't bad for these places.
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Of the above if I have to choose one it would be TGIF, I, next Bennigans because of their wonderful and fatteing Monte Cristo sandwhich. I have never cared for Applebees or Chilis except for the buffalo wings. I still thing there is a place for these large chains, I just think, their time has ended. Another group will follow soon. Who knows what they wil be.
Nita
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06-17-2009, 01:15 AM
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