Lake Merritt (Sacramento, Oakland, Bell: transplants, homes, private school)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Care to give a location?

NorCal Dude is just trolling. When it comes to Oakland, he and BayDude for some reason lose all credibility and sense of reason---its very odd to be honest.

[NorCal Dude]

For where? The heroin needle I almost pricked myself with? Right by the childrens fairyland? The prostitutes I have seen on Grand and Bellevue? Or the people getting high off weed (everywhere)?

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by NorCal Dude

For where? The heroin needle I almost pricked myself with? Right by the childrens fairyland? The prostitutes I have seen on Grand and Bellevue? Or the people getting high off weed (everywhere)?

To Montclair18 ignorance is bliss.

What? Theres no prostitutes and crackheads here! No Way! Its all wonderful and beautiful and "diverse" (their favorite word). Come share in the diversity of vagrants, crackheads, and random angry people Oakland is so famous for.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by BayDude

To Montclair18 ignorance is bliss.

Then you must be the happiest person in the world. Along with the other 'Dude' in this conversation. LOL

What? Theres no prostitutes and crackheads here! No Way!

I don't recall reading a post from you acknowledging that there is anything to Oakland but this--unless its a backhanded insult. That denotes tremendous ignorance.

[NorCal Dude]

Lake Merritt is just not my cup of tea. Too gritty with sketchy people hanging around. You are the one getting offended montclair. If you like thats fine.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by NorCal Dude

Perhaps if Oakland got itself off the top ten most dangerous cities list

We'll work on that while others work on making some money.
Median Earnings, Past 12 Months
San Francisco $49,938
Oakland $45,994
San Jose $44,418
San Diego $40,327
Sacramento $40,019
Santa Ana $35,799
Long Beach $34,333
Los Angeles $31,852
Anaheim $31,425
Fresno $30,271
Bakersfield $26,942

or yielded a decent middle or high school

Funny you should mention Education
Percentage of Adults Age 25+ with an Advanced Degree
San Francisco 20.8%
San Diego 16.8%
Oakland 16.0%
San Jose 13.9%
Los Angeles 10.1%
Sacramento 9.5%
Long Beach 9.3%
Anaheim 6.9%
Fresno 6.3%
Bakersfield 5.8%
Santa Ana 2.9%

people might have a higher opinion of the city. Imagine the logic.

I'm sorry, but based on these stats, the room for improvement appears to be everywhere.

LOL.

[NorCal Dude]

I don't see what any of those stats you provided has to do with Oaklands crime rate or its horrible public schools. Thanks for posting useless stats. All though I do find it odd that Oakland does have more people with bachelors degrees La, Sac, and santa Ana, yet has a higher crime rate. That is sad, you would figure a city with more educated people would not have as much crime.

And am I supposed to be impressed with a median earning of 45k a year in Oakland? I live in Granite bay, that amount is considered modest around these parts to say the least.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by NorCal Dude

All though I do find it odd that Oakland does have more people with bachelors degrees La, Sac, and santa Ana, yet has a higher crime rate.

You mean Oakland is a city of contrasts? No that's something you apparently will never admit.

And am I supposed to be impressed with a median earning of 45k a year in Oakland?

Well, for all the ghettoness you wish to revolve this conversation around, Oaklanders apparently make more money than most other cities-does that mean we're better than you?

LMAO

I live in Granite bay, that amount is considered modest around these parts to say the least.

Granite Bay, Sacamento's richest suburb, would only be Oakland's 4th richest neighborhood by Average Household Income.
According to Onboard LLC

Oakland Neighborhoods by Average Family Income(2008)

Hiller Highlands/ Panoramic Hill $231,393
Waterfront Warehouse District-Jack London Square $211,235
Claremont $208,664
Piedmont Pines $194,716
Granite Bay $189,719
Montclair $185,247
Crocker Highlands $176,462
Merriewood $162,534
Upper Rockridge $160,594
Forestland $158,826
Sheperd Canyon $148,168
Rockridge $143,605
Glen Highlands $143,538
Sheffield Village $135,575
Sequoyah $131,296
Trestle Glen $131,035
Crestmont/ Woodminster $129,090
Oakmore $123,750
Caballo Hills $121,583
Leona Heights $121,583
Skyline-Hillcrest Estates $121,583
Chabot Park $119,790
Redwood Heights $111,814
Oak Knoll/ Golf Links $95,110
Lincoln Highlands $94,269
Fairview Park $92,833
Glenview $91,993
Shafter $87,278
Lakeshore $83,415
Maxwell Park $74,057
Upper Dimond $72,309
Jefferson/ Harrington $71,553
Eastmont Hills $70,694
Civic Center/ Lakeside/ Lake Merritt $67,427
Cleveland Heights $67,208
Piedmont Ave $65,250
Laurel $64,857
Bella Vista $63,336
Grand Lake $61,717
Allendale $61,223
Bushrod $60,835
Temescal $59,974
Toler Heights $59,075
South Prescott $58,893
North/ South Stonehurst $58,083
Fitchburg $57,664
Adams Point $57,621
Golden Gate $56,627
Durant Manor $56,306
Sausal Creek $54,756
Iveywood $54,198
Paradise Park $54,071
Oak Tree $53,121
Sobrante Park $53,119
East Peralta $52,997
Fairfax $52,133
Dimond/ School $51,729
Lynn/ Highland Park $51,639
Santa Fe $51,415
Merritt $51,318
Clawson $51,293
Millsmont $50,999
Ivy Hill $50,099
Frick $49,690
Las Palmas $49,299
Mosswood $48,414
St Elizabeth $47,087
Cox $47,067
Brookfield Village $47,055
Webster $46,975
Longfellow $46,245
Reservoir Hill/ Meadow Brook $44,885
Foothill Square $44,789
Coliseum $44,519
McClymonds $44,168
Ralph Bunch $44,030
Hawthorne $43,987
Rancho San Antonio $43,982
Highland Terrace $43,441
Prescott $42,743
Gaskill $42,668
Oakland Av/ Harrison St $42,468
Hegenberger $42,093
Castlemont $41,987
Highland $41,876
Eastmont $41,758
Arroyo Viejo $41,450
Oak Center $40,701
Tuxedo $40,644
Seminary/ Havenscourt $40,295
Melrose $39,641
Clinton $38,887
Pill Hill $38,714
Chinatown $38,564
North Kennedy Tract/ South Kennedy Tract/ Fruitvale Station $37,571
Lockwood/ Tevis $36,261
Elmhurst Park $35,298
Woodland $34,890
Hoover/ Foster $34,414
Bartlett/ Patten/ Peralta/ Hacienda $34,283
Downtown $32,651
Acorn/ Acorn Industrial $27,617
San Pablo Gateway $24,906

Oh look, more contrasts. We might be seeing a pattern emerging.

[NorCal Dude]

That is sad, you would figure a city with more educated people would not have as much crime.

I would not figure. Its Oakland. The only city with worse crime is richmond. That just shows how seedy the city is even with large amounts of educated people.

Well, for all the ghettoness you wish to revolve this conversation around, Oaklanders apparently make more money than most other cities-does that mean we're better than you?

Well if you consider a few thousand bucks a lot of money than I guess so. I made that type of money(a bit more actually) with in a year out of college, so again, not impressed.

Granite Bay, Sacamento's richest suburb, would only be Oakland's 4th richest neighborhood by Average Household Income.

So what, we are not talking neighborhoods, quit being irrelevant. The average person in granite bay makes about twice as much as the average person in Oakland.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by NorCal Dude

I would not figure. Its Oakland. The only city with worse crime is richmond. That just shows how seedy the city is even with large amounts of educated people.

Like I said, you will never admit that Oakland is a city of contrasts.

LOL

Well if you consider a few thousand bucks a lot of money than I guess so. I made that type of money(a bit more actually) with in a year out of college, so again, not impressed.

Yet its impressive enough to top all but 1 of California's 10 cities??? How strange...hmmm...must be Oakland's huge contrasts, you know, the ones you wont acknowledge cause doing so would delegitimize every single thing you've said thus far?

So what, we are not talking neighborhoods, quit being irrelevant.

Actually Granite Bay's income level would only rank 5th among Oakland's neighborhoods.

The average person in granite bay makes about twice as much as the average person in Oakland.

The Oakland Hills makes Granite Bay look like a boring tiny hamlet in the middle of nowhere devoid of any cosmopolitanism whatsoever--wait a sec, it is both those things. Oops.

I lived in Granite Bay for a year but then moved to Arden Oaks off of Eastern and Arden because I felt too isolated in GB. Very glad I made that move.