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Old 03-19-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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So to sum it up, San Jose is not a "real" city because it has:
In fact, I was born and lived during very early childhood in a Southeast Asian city that has 8x the population, 6x the area, and 5x the age of San Jose
Which one? Hong Kong?

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Honestly, all big cities in the US, except for NYC, are tiny cities to me. San Jose and San Francisco are the size of my bathroom compared to the city of my birthplace. But being tiny doesn't make them any less "real"
You missed Chicago that has second largest downtown in the US after NYC. Although its still a lot smaller than NYC, it feels much larger than LA, DC or other big cities.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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Which one? Hong Kong?

You missed Chicago that has second largest downtown in the US after NYC. Although its still a lot smaller than NYC, it feels much larger than LA, DC or other big cities.
Saigon. Chicago is tiny compared to it.

Anyhow, I do agree that there should be more late-night eateries in San Jose and South Bay. But as marco has pointed out, the nature of the residents here (family-oriented folks who don't go out past midnight) limits the supply of late-night customers leading to low number of late-night eateries.

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Old 03-19-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Well they're aren't going to be many places in Almaden Valley open at 2, it's residential and few college students/"young professionals"live there. Late night would be expected in downtown, near colleges, etc. I would expect that in nyc too.

Fine dining isn't going to be open that late because their target customer doesn't buy at that time.

Jack in the box, at least the one by sjsu, is open 24 hrs. But not "the grill on the alley" because nobody goes to a 4 star full service place at 2 am.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Well, don't know if this link will work but it is a list of late night fine dining places in sj. I think nemea is the only one open after 10 or so that I would call fine dining.

http://m.yelp.com/search?find_desc=l...San+Jose%2C+CA

New York might have more because they have 10+ million people so even a fairly small percentage of people willing to dress up and pay $30 a plate with full service at 2 am might be enough to justify it.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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So to sum it up, San Jose is not a "real" city because it has:

1) Less places to eat out late.
2) Lazy people who prefers to traverse a city of 180 square miles using a car.
3) Large suburban-style residential areas where the residents live in single-family homes surrounded by 6,000 sq ft of green lawn and their own pools.
4) A few idiots who double-park in front of a store.
5) Made out of cardboards


Whambulance
Yeah, that pretty much summarizes it... although I have no idea what the "made out of cardboards" means, plus you have to add VIBE and PACE to that list. And I wasn't whining, btw, or I wouldn't live here! I am just explaining what makes it more of a "suburban" type of city, as opposed to denser urban cities like NYC & SF. I even said "not that it's a bad thing," so where did you get the idea I was whining about it? Admittedly I do miss SF, mostly for the weather (I hate the heat in SJ) and beaches.

Oh, and it's not just a FEW idiots who double-park here - it's a TON!! Not so much in San Jose itself, but definitely in the surrounding towns (like where I work). I can be kinda lazy myself, but not to that extreme. Seriously, I'll see them park in front of a store when there are spots FIVE feet away. WTF? That's why I said it's either laziness or entitlement, probably more of the latter in the neighborhood where I work.

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I have lived in St. Paul/Minneapolis, and have visited a bunch of other big cities of the US (LA, NYC, DC, Philly included), along with foreign cities like Paris, London, Rome, Zurich, Delhi, etc. San Jose is not the only big city I have visited or lived in.

In fact, I was born and lived during very early childhood in a Southeast Asian city that has 8x the population, 6x the area, and 5x the age of San Jose

Honestly, all big cities in the US, except for NYC, are tiny cities to me. San Jose and San Francisco are the size of my bathroom compared to the city of my birthplace. But being tiny doesn't make them any less "real"
I explained what I meant by "real," and you summarized my points above - but yes, San Francisco is actually tiny compared to most worldwide cities. It has more of an urban vibe than SJ, though, which is why I don't feel like I'm in a "real" city down here. Hard to explain, but I think you know what I mean given your experiences. Do you think San Jose has that vibe and pace of SF?
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Pizza My Heart is open after 10, apparently, so you are wrong on this clause.
I barely consider that to be "decent" food, although I do love me some pizza... but the one in my neighborhood does close at 10, so that is what I was referring to here. If there is one open LATE (I'm talking midnight or later), I would totally be willing to drive there for those late-night munchies/meals. Mmmm, now I have a craving for pizza. Great.

I don't even get home from work until between 9-10:30pm, and don't do much cooking, so that's why this is a big issue for me. Not to mention, I eat mostly vegetarian and avoid fast foods if at all possible. I've become accustomed to planning ahead, and try to prepare more meals at home, but do miss the ability to find non-fast-food restaurants after 10-11pm. And I used to complain about the lack in SF, so living down here has made me appreciate what they do have.

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Suburban feel? Where? Certainly not downtown, which is probably the densest area. There are suburban areas in the south, but north San Jose is industrial and the rest is urban.
I'm just giving my opinion, and compared to other cities where I've lived, even downtown SJ doesn't feel that "urban" to me. It's better than the outskirts, though, which is why I have been looking for an apartment downtown.

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Almaden Valley is a residential suburban neighborhood. The people who live there pay a lot to live in a monolithic single family home in a major city, and they don't want density. This comment is like living in the least dense neighborhood in Queens and complaining that it isn't like Manhattan.

If you choose to buy a house in Almaden you're basically choosing to drive everywhere.

If you want to be able to use transit instead, you want to live in downtown, the north, the east, or the denser parts of South San Jose (near the light rail).
Yeah, I get that... and I do live (sorta) in Almaden Valley, so I knew when I rented that place it was more "suburban" in feel. It was the only place I could find that was dog-friendly, within my budget, and close to the freeway I was using for my commute. It's still convenient even though I've switched jobs, but now I have a little more flexibility due to my work location. Now that they're raising my rent again, I was hoping to find something downtown instead! Didn't happen in time, so I'll just stick around a little longer until I can find a place either downtown or on the Peninsula.

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Most on this board, yeah, but many are dependent on transit instead, including myself. Many engineers at Apple, Google etc ride transit to commute.
Most of those companies have their own shuttles, too, which makes things a lot easier. Unfortunately I don't have that option, but as I said on another thread recently, I actually do like driving. Of course, if I had to commute during rush hour (which is rare), I might not feel the same way.
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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P.S. If all else fails, my go-to for food after midnight is La Victoria Taqueria... they aren't exactly great, but it hits the spot when I can't find anything else after 10-11 (they're open until midnight 4 days/week & 3am the other nights). I do like their veggie breakfast burrito with potatoes, if I get extra cheese and douse it with their awesome "orange sauce."
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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P.S. If all else fails, my go-to for food after midnight is La Victoria Taqueria... they aren't exactly great, but it hits the spot when I can't find anything else after 10-11 (they're open until midnight 4 days/week & 3am the other nights). I do like their veggie breakfast burrito with potatoes, if I get extra cheese and douse it with their awesome "orange sauce."
Iguana's.

Mon – Weds 11am – 12am
Thurs – Sat 11am – 3am
Sun 11am – 10pm
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Nick the Greek, guys and gals. Open till 3AM on Thurs, Fri, and Sat nights. Open till 11 on the other days. Bomb-ass gyro!
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