I'm scared of the high speed railroad they're building (San Jose: home, transfer)

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

I agree! Far too many stations. Well, it does need an Oakland stop because that is a major deep water port. Long Beach for the same reason. But it doesn't need 5 stops between San Diego and Los Angeles like it does now, and there should not be any stops between SF and SJ.

Really SF doesn't need a stop because of Caltrain, but like I said, politically they have to put one there.

I actually do think SF need a stop. I don't think you save all that much money by having HSR stop in San Jose. And if I'm paying the big bucks to use HSR, I sure as heck don't want to change trains going from SJ to SF.

[Folks3000]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

Personally I think the rail has too many stations. There should be only 6 stations: SF, SJ, Sacramento, Fresno, LA, and SD.

The less stations the faster we go.

I don't know why we need a Gilroy station, so ridiculous. If people want to go to LA from Gilroy via HSR, they just drive to the SJ station.

Like I have said before, not every train must stop at every station. Hence why almost all stations withh have passing tracks.

[MrBR]

Originally Posted by Folks3000

Like I have said before, not every train must stop at every station. Hence why almost all stations withh have passing tracks.

The passing tracks are such a dumb idea. Can we have those near EPA or East Oakland or the central valley where they won't affect much?

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by Folks3000

Like I have said before, not every train must stop at every station. Hence why almost all stations withh have passing tracks.

In that case, I'm all good

[bobby_guz_man]

Originally Posted by MrBR

The passing tracks are such a dumb idea. Can we have those near EPA or East Oakland or the central valley where they won't affect much?

Why would that be a dumb idea?

[marcopolo666]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

Why would that be a dumb idea?

Just look at all the posts he's made on this subject, and the question is answered.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

Why would that be a dumb idea?

Obviously, because the poor people to the east deserve to have the adverse effects rain down on them much more than the rich to the west. It is still America, right? Very Right.

[MrBR]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Obviously, because the poor people to the east deserve to have the adverse effects rain down on them much more than the rich to the west. It is still America, right? Very Right.

They can deal with it better. They're used to loud noises, shady atmosphere, and chunks of metal speeding by.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by MrBR

They can deal with it better. They're used to loud noises, shady atmosphere, and chunks of metal speeding by.

Well, yes, and they certainly deserve it, as they clearly have been chosen from above to live in awfulness.

Ever heard of environmental racism?

[2nd trick op]

Originally Posted by Azmordean

I don't see why it would be any worse than the current CalTrain. If anything, electrified trains, even if running at somewhat higher speed (they won't run max speed along the Peninsula), will probably be much quieter than the current CalTrains.

Originally Posted by bobby_guz_man

I actually do think SF need a stop. I don't think you save all that much money by having HSR stop in San Jose. And if I'm paying the big bucks to use HSR, I sure as heck don't want to change trains going from SJ to SF.

I don't understand why some people here can't recognis ze that putting downtown San Francisco on a direct route from the Southland to Sacramento would be extremely expensive, if not physically impossible. You would need yet another crossing of the Bay, probably by a tunnel and using BART's would be problematical as that system uses a different gauge (distance between the rails), plus different operating patterns.

Between them, BART and CalTrain can provide adequate service to the proposed line which, as previously pointed out is likely to be built in stages over a number of years.

It should also be recognized that while a double-track line is perfectly adequate for the current CalTrain service (very little freight originates there, it's low-valued stuff and can be serviced in off-peak hours) mixing CalTrain with services capable of higher speeds (as is currently the practice on the East Coast "Northeast Corridor"), would require at least three, probably four tracks. And the returns in the from of reduced transit times are likely to be marginal due to the thickly settled portions of the Peninsula necessitating lower speeds.