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Old 10-02-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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San Jose Police Union Warns Of Another Exodus If Liccardo Wins Mayoral Race

San Jose Police Union Warns Of Another Exodus If Liccardo Wins Mayoral Race CBS San Francisco

Does this "warning" feel like manipulation of San Jose voters?
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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At this point I pretty much gave up regarding this "battle" between the union and the city (meaning us taxpayers). At some point the union just really gotta stop blackmailing the citizens.
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Old 10-02-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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That settles it. Vote for Liccardo. The union goons want to hold people hostage? Then the people must arm themselves.
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Old 10-02-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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That settles it. Vote for Liccardo. The union goons want to hold people hostage? Then the people must arm themselves.
Well said.

Whoever the unions oppose, I'm going to support. Thanks unions for making my life simple!
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Old 10-02-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Well said.

Whoever the unions oppose, I'm going to support. Thanks unions for making my life simple!
Well, don't complain when you really need the police and they're shorthanded and can't respond as fast as you'd like.
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Old 10-02-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Well, don't complain when you really need the police and they're shorthanded and can't respond as fast as you'd like.
No worries. The police have no duty to protect me anyway.
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Old 10-02-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Poor underpaid babies. I'm sure someone else will be happy to take their jobs.
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Old 10-02-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Who's gonna rack up overtime by by sitting en masse outsied nightclubs now? Imagine lal the drunk people who will stumble home safely instead of being scooped up to meet quotas.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:45 PM
 
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San Jose Police Union Warns Of Another Exodus If Liccardo Wins Mayoral Race

San Jose Police Union Warns Of Another Exodus If Liccardo Wins Mayoral Race CBS San Francisco

Does this "warning" feel like manipulation of San Jose voters?
Yes, it most definitely feels like manipulation because it is. And I work for the City. The pensions just aren't realistic. The math doesn't work. And that's for the rank and file City employees. Police & firefighters get even better pensions, so they're even more unrealistic.

As Nick said, vote for Liccardo.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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Well, don't complain when you really need the police and they're shorthanded and can't respond as fast as you'd like.
The reason they're shorthanded is because they wanted pensions that paid out 90% of highest year's salary starting as early as age 50, among other benefits. Not to mention the fact that San Jose, by far, had the highest proportion of officers retiring on disability than any other police force in CA. Clearly the disability rules were being abused. If they hadn't made such unreasonable pension demands, the City would be able to hire more officers. The City's contribution to the police/firefighter pension plan now exceeds 100% of salaries. I know for mine, as a rank and file City employee, it's something like 59% on top of my salary. This is not sustainable. I think it sucks that it's unsustainable, but my feelings are irrelevant. Living in denial just prolongs and increases the pain.

New hires are not getting the same benefit, but it will be many decades before the old grandfathered cops & firefighters die off and the City begins to realize significant savings from the cheaper pension plan.
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