1930 Almaden Apartments kick out tenants with decent incomes (San Jose: real estate, apartment complex)

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Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Careful what you ask for... you just might get it.

This is part of the Government response to the call for quality affordable housing.

Yeah, that's about right. The answer is to build enough housing units so that supply and demand come into balance. But that never seems to happen because of the anti-growth attitudes and policies that exist in CA.

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Originally Posted by moovin

You should ask your apartment owners if it's legal for them to kick you out just so they could get a lower income renter in place of you and then get additional subsidized rent money for that new renter. Tell them you want it in writing and then investigate the legality of it.

Otherwise, if you're getting below-market rate housing and now you have to get market rate housing I can't see how you're being screwed - you're like everyone else then.

As far as I know, they can kick me out. And this may sound bad, but I don't know if I really want to live somewhere where the people are low income. It sounds prejudiced, but a low income complex is more likely to attract a disproportionate number of problem people.

I don't actually get kicked out until my lease expires on 7/31, but I am moving as of 3/1. My next door neighbor & I are going to move into a 2 BR complex down the street. Going back to having a roommate was the only way I could keep my rent the same.

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Originally Posted by Luke9686

I feel for you. Many are helped by these programs, but few deserve it from what I have witnessed.

Well, I think "deserve" is a loaded term. In many cases I would agree. I wonder how many people who will qualify for this program are illegal immigrants.

But I do think a lot of people fall into a gray area where they're not really blatantly offensive (drug abusers, etc) but where they're not really doing much to improve their lot in life, either.

And of course, when you have a government program that is going to kick you out if you have more than 5K in assets and more than 45K in annual income, well, what incentive do you have to do any better???????????

I mean, it's just ridiculous, 5K in assets won't even get you a decent used car!!

I think the best government program would be to teach people how to manage money. That seems to be a problem that cuts across all socioeconomic lines. The other policy that would help would be to actually build enough housing to meet demand. One more policy that would help would be to kick out people who are here illegally. Of course, I know none of these things are going to happen. But that's what needs to be done.

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Originally Posted by moovin

You should ask your apartment owners if it's legal for them to kick you out just so they could get a lower income renter in place of you and then get additional subsidized rent money for that new renter. Tell them you want it in writing and then investigate the legality of it.

Otherwise, if you're getting below-market rate housing and now you have to get market rate housing I can't see how you're being screwed - you're like everyone else then.

It's not all that unusual for landlords to charge existing tenants less than what they charge for new tenants. They could have jacked up my rent as much as 8% per year in the time I lived there, but they only raised my rent by 7% in the 2.5 years I've lived there. They must have thought I was worth keeping.

As for whether it's legal, I'm sure it is and probably isn't worth fighting. As I said in another post, I think a low income complex will attract a disproportionate number of problem people, so I'm moving into a 2BR down the street with my next door neighbor (who's in the same situation).

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Originally Posted by sonarrat

Section 8 is the perfect case in point of why liberal-socialist policies don't really work in California. The more we tend towards being a welfare state, the more regular people get squeezed, only to be rewarded with a lower quality of life.

Actually, this is NOT Section 8. It is part of the Federal Tax Credit Program. I had never heard of it until being informed that my lease would not be renewed.

But, otherwise, I agree with what you're saying.

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Originally Posted by Alexus

Not everyone has a good start in life. Not everyone in these programs is there by choice or chooses to remain there indefinitely. These programs are needed and justified.

Good luck in finding something else.

I agree not everyone gets a good start in life. How about government programs that teach those who didn't get a good start in life the following:

1. The importance of using birth control and not having kids out of wedlock.

2. Learn how to save money (actually this should be taught in the schools across the board).

3. Vocational education for those who don't want to go to college.

The not having kids out of wedlock thing would solve at least 50% of our poverty problem.

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Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Unbelievable. I really feel for you. You can see the incentive not to work hard in life because on you way to succceeding you will be treated worse then some who would just milk the system.

It does feel like a penalty for being responsible. But I would NEVER want to be dependent on a government program like that. That is a trap all it's own, which is basically designed to keep people living payday to payday. No thanks. I value my independence too much.

[Frustrated21]

I also live at 1930 and we have to move because of our income I am looking for a 2/3 bedroom around this area and guess what...There is a lot of low income/affordable housing in the Willow Glen area...That S****!!!!!!

[justforme]

Let's be careful, anyone can end up on the street. Health reasons, downsizing. etc. And we all might need the help the government is giving out. Just a thought.
justforme.

[aslowdodge]

So to help some you displace others? I am the first to say that some people need help here and there, but you have to admit there are a lot of those receiving help when they are capable of doing it on their own.