Recall of Judge Aaron Persky - yes or no and who to replace him with?

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

I don't know why the link didn't work in my first post, but I found the info again regarding the recall election here.

https://ballotpedia.org/Aaron_Persky...ifornia_(2018)

I'd missed this the first time I looked at that web page. It contains a list of those who officially support the recall effort. It's pretty impressive.
Looks like more than a one-person witch hunt:

Publications:

Palo Alto Weekly Editorial Board
Verde Magazine of Palo Alto High School Editorial Board

Elected and appointed officials:

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Rep. Karen Bass (D-CA)
Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA)
Rep. Jerry McNerney (D-CA)
Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA)
Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX)
Former Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)
State Sen. Kevin de Leon (D)
State Sen. James Beall Jr. (D)
State Sen. Gerald Hill (D)
Assemblywoman Anna Caballero (D)
Assemblyman David Chiu (D)
Assemblywoman Susan Talamantes Eggman (D)
Assemblyman Tony Thurmond (D)
Former Assemblywoman Nora Campos (D)
California Board of Equalization Chairwoman Fiona Ma (D)
Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith
Santa Clara Valley Water District Board Director Barbara Keegan
Santa Clara Valley Water District Board Director Gary Kremen
West Valley Mission Community College District Trustee Adrienne Grey
West Valley Mission Community College District Trustee Randi Kinman
Santa Clara County Board of Education President Michael Chang
Santa Clara County Board of Education Vice President Rosemary Kamei
Santa Clara County Board of Education member Grace Mah
San Jose Vice Mayor Magdalena Carrasco
San Jose City Councillor Raul Peralez
San Jose City Councillor Donald Rocha
Gilroy City Councillor Peter Leroe-Munoz
Los Altos Hills Vice Mayor John Radford
Milpitas Mayor Rich Tran
Milpitas City Councillor Anthony Phan
Former Milpitas Mayor Bob Livengood
Monte Sereno City Councillor Curtis Rogers
Mountain View Mayor Lenny Siegel
Mountain View City Councillor Margaret Abe-Koga
Monte Sereno City Councillor Evert Wolsheimer
Palo Alto City Councillor Cory Wolbach
Former Palo Alto Mayor Patrick Burt
Saratoga City Councillor Rishi Kumar
Santa Clara City Councillor Dominic Caserta
Sunnyvale City Councillor Nancy Smith
Alum Rock Union Elementary School District Board Vice President Andres Quintero
Berryessa Union School District Board President Thelma Boac
Berryessa Union School District Board Vice President Hugo Jimenez
Campbell Union High School District Board Clerk and Trustee Stacey Brown
Campbell Union High School District Board member Kalen Gallagher
Cupertino Union School District Board member Liang-Fang Chao
Franklin-McKinley School District Board member Omar Torres
Former Franklin-McKinley School District Board member Maya Esparza
Los Altos School District Board member Bryan Johnson
Los Gatos Union School District Board member Daniel Snyder
Los Gatos-Saratoga Union High School District Board member Cynthia Chang
Los Gatos-Saratoga Union High School District Board Clerk and Trustee Katherine Tseng
Milpitas Unified School District Board President Daniel Bobay
Morgan Hill Unified School District Board member Gino Borgioli
Mountain View Whisman School District Board member Jose Gutierrez, Jr.
Orchard School District Board Clerk and Trustee Stephanie Hill
Palo Alto Unified School District Board member Todd Collins
Palo Alto Unified School District Board member Ken Dauber
Palo Alto Unified School District Board member Jennifer DiBrienza
Santa Clara Unified School District Board member Mark Richardson
Saratoga Union School District Board member Sophia Kao
Conejo Valley Unified School District Board member Betsy Connolly
Former Palo Alto Unified School District Board member Amado Padilla
Former Sacramento City Unified School District Board member Diana Rodriguez-Suruki
Former California State Board of Education member Allen Seid
Former state Sen. Jason Carter (D-GA)
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Chandra Brooks
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Shanta Franco-Clausen
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Suzanne E. Doty
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Jennifer Briscoe
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Teresa Fiss
Santa Clara County Commission on the Status of Women member Yan Zhou
Campbell Department of Parks and Recreation Chairwoman Celeste Walker
Los Altos Hills Planning Commissioner Kavita Tankha
Mountain View Parks and Recreation Commissioner Thida Cornes
Santa Monica Landmarks Commissioner Richard Brand
Santa Monica Commissioner Elena Christopoulos

Organizations and political activists:

South Bay Labor Council
California Nurses Association
Communications Workers of America, CWA Local 9423
Region 7 California Democratic Party
Democratic Party of California Chairman Eric Bauman
Democratic Party of California Women's Caucus Chairwoman Christine Pelosi
Democratic Party of California Executive Board member Andrea Reyna
Santa Clara County Democratic Party finance director Prameela Bartholomeusz
Santa Clara County Democratic Club
Democratic Activists for Women Now Democratic Club
Democratic Activists for Women Now Vice President Frances Herbert
San Jose Brown Berets
Feminist Majority
Feminist Majority President Ellie Smeal
Feminist Majority Policy Director Gaylynn Burroughs
Feminist Majority Executive Director Kathy Spillar
National Organization for Women
National Organization for Women—New York
National Organization for Women—New York City
National Organization for Women—California
National Organization for Women—San Diego
National Organization for Women President Terry O'Neill
National Organization for Women—New York City Advocacy Director Jane Manning
National Organization for Women—California President Jerilyn Stapleton
National Organization for Women—San Diego President Michelle Gell
National Organization for Women—Sacramento President Kolieka Siegle
National Women's Political Caucus of Silicon Valley
NARAL Pro-Choice California Director Amy Everitt
Voices of Women for Change President Taraneh Roosta
Women's Media Center President Julie Burton
Former Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile
Bay Area Women's March President Jenny Higgins Bradanini
United Farm Workers co-founder Dolores Huerta
Women Donors Network President and Chief Executive Officer Donna Hall
Bay Area Women's March co-organizer Jennie Richardson
Tabla African Theater Ensemble co-founder Viera Whye

Community figures:

XQ Superschool Project Chief Executive Officer Russlynn Ali
Stanford University School of Medicine Professor Marcella Alsan
University of California at San Francisco Medical School Professor Tamara Alliston
Y Combinator President Sam Altman
Stanford University School of Medicine Professor Ben Barres
Dartmouth University Professor Susan Brison
Carleton College Professor Anita Chikkatur
Lex Machina Chief Executive Officer Josh Becker
Stanford University School of Medicine Professor Richard Bland
Attorney Lisa Bloom
Film producer Nina Yang Bongiovi
U.S. House of Representatives candidate Bryan Caforio (D)
BlogHer co-founder Elisa Camahort
Thinkspace founder Peter Chee
Writer Adolpha Cole
Palo Alto community leader Gina Dalma
Film director Kirby Dick
Redpoint partner Satish Dharmaraj
Stanford University Professor Emerita Sandra Drake
Film producer Lena Dunham
Pixar photography director Danielle Feinberg
Comedian Nikki Glaser
Greylock investor Sarah Guo
U.S. House of Representatives candidate Josh Harder (D)
Peninsula Open Space Trust Board of Directors member Christy Holloway
Author John Hodgman
Greylock partner Reid Hoffman
Sense of Wonder co-founder Erin Hoffman-John
University of California at Berkeley Professor Victoria Kahn
Internet Law Center founder Bennett Kelley
Crowdpac founder Gisel Kordestani
Author Jon Krakauer
Television producer Stephanie Laing
LifeSite co-founder Crystal Lee
U.S. House of Representatives candidate Mike Levin (D)
Filmmaker Kamala Lopez
IVP general partner Jules Maltz
Musician Connie Lim
Elka Cholo Re host Paphia Nandy
Stanford University Professor David Palumbo-Liu
Wildlife Conservation Network Director Rebecca Patton
Clever Girls founder Stefania Pomponi
Stanford University School of Medicine Professor Marlene Rabinovitch
Writer Michaelene Risley
Writer Arnold Rudnick
Girls Who Code founder Reshma Saujani
Asian Americans for Community Involvement co-founder Mary Chan Seid
Filmmaker Jill Soloway
Vanderbilt University Professor Ronnie Steinberg
Actor Sharon Stone
Poet Amber Tamblyn
San Jose City Council candidate Omar Vasquez
State University of New York at Old Westbury Professor Judith Walsh
University of Southern California Professor Carol Wise
Parenting magazine founder Robin Wolaner
Women Donors Network member Wendy Wolf
Stanford University School of Medicine Professor Sophia Yen
Film producer Amy Ziering

Law professors:

Harvard Law School Professor Howard E. Abrams
University of New Hampshire School of Law Professor Ann Bartow
Stanford Law School Professor G. Marcus Cole
Santa Clara University School of Law Professor Stephen F. Diamond
Stanford Law School Professor Michele Landis Dauber
Stanford Law School Professor Emeritus Ronald J. Gilson
Stanford Law School Professor William H. Neukom
University of Denver School of Law Professor Nancy Leong
Harvard Law School Professor Lawrence Lessig
Saint Louis University School of Law Professor Yvette Joy Liebesman
Yale Law School Professor Tracey L. Meares
Northwestern University Professor Laura Beth Nielsen
Rutgers Law School Professor Sarah E. Ricks
New York University Law School Professor Christopher Sprigman

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

Thank you for your perspective. I did find her victim impact statement online here:

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/da/news...rner%20vis.pdf

I have to disagree that he should have been given any leniency simply because he didn't have a criminal record - yet. The problem is minimizing rape as if it's not just as violent a crime as a deliberate attempted murder or stabbing.

I don't think people should get a pass simply because a violent crime is a first time offense.

There were several considerations, not just the lack of a criminal record. I outlined them above. And, for the sake of accuracy, I should point out that the first two counts of rape of an intoxicated person and rape of an unconscious person were withdrawn by the prosecution.

This kind of behavior doesn't come out just because someone is drunk. His behavior shows how he thinks. Alcohol doesn't turn people into rapists.

Actually, it can. Drugs make people do a lot of things they normally wouldn't, in both good and bad ways. A drink or anti-anxiety meds to help calm nerves before a speech or a show; voluntary drugging to enhance pleasure during sex; drugging a date to lower inhibitions. We can't reasonably dismiss the effects of drugs in these situations or excuse one party for their lack of control while requiring a sober response from the other. But we do, as a community, and this creates assaults where they may well not exist, especially on college campuses.

This is a great article that addresses this problem and the myths surrounding consent and alcohol. It's a 3 part series. Parts 1 and 2 specifically address the myths and misconceptions surrounding consent, alcohol, and the junk science that influences those myths and the current policies on college campuses.

https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...policy/538974/

But, you don't just get a slap on the wrist for raping a girl.

Correct. Turner owes court fees. He has to pay restitution to Emily Doe. Rehabilitation for one year in a program for sex offenders. He gets 14-years if he violates his probation. As a convicted felon, he can't own a gun. He is a registered sex offender for the rest of his life (if he doesn't win his appeal). That registry shows his photo, address, convictions and details of his probation. People have picketed in front of his home and threatened him and his family. His work opportunities are now severely limited. Life for Brock Turner pretty much sucks from here on out.

And the fact that two passers-by saw him in the process of raping her and chased him down when he ran, and one of them was crying hysterically over what he'd seen - shows that his wasn't some mistaken situation where he honestly believed he had consent.

Two passers by saw mere seconds of something that started before then. The fact is they don't know how they got there, they don't know if there was or wasn't consent before they got there. And that really is the part that a lot of folks are not willing to acknowledge, that they are both more than those few seconds witnessed by two guys on bikes.

From the articles I've read online, it appears to be a consensus that the sentence was shockingly light. So, I'm going to go with that.

That's the problem. Many of those articles are not considering all the facts. Very few do.

And now that I know this judge has let other offenders delay sentencing so they could finish a sports season, I'm also appalled at that. This guy doesn't understand the issue or take it as seriously as our society demands now.

So, I've made my decision. I'm voting to remove Judge Persky from his position, and vote for Cindy Seeley Hendrickson.

That's really too bad.

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by NoMoreSnowForMe

I don't know why the link didn't work in my first post, but I found the info again regarding the recall election here.

https://ballotpedia.org/Aaron_Persky...ifornia_(2018)

I'd missed this the first time I looked at that web page. It contains a list of those who officially support the recall effort. It's pretty impressive. Looks like more than a one-person witch hunt:

This is the list of those who support him:

Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeff Rosen
Santa Clara County Public Defender Molly O'Neal
Santa Clara County Assessor Larry Stone
Former California State Assemblymember and San Mateo County Supervisor Richard Gordon
Former Santa Clara County Counsel Ann Ravel
Former San Jose Mayor Susan Hammer
Former San Jose MayorChuck Reed
Former Los Altos Mayor Jim Thurber
Former Los Altos Hills Mayor and Current Councilmember Courtenay Corrigan
Former Palo Alto Mayor Judith Kleinberg
Former Palo Alto Mayor Larry Klein
Former United States District Court Judge Hon. Nancy Gertner (Ret.)
Former United States Bankruptcy Judge Hon. Arthur Weissbrodt (Ret.)
Former Santa Clara County Superior Court Commissioner Hon. Edward Mills (Ret.)

Presiding Justices, Court of Appeal

Presiding Justice Arthur Gilbert
Presiding Justice, Court of Appeal
Presiding Justice J. Anthony Kline
Presiding Justice, Court of Appeal
Presiding Justice Frances Rothschild
Presiding Justice, Court of Appeal

Law School Deans

Erwin Chemerinsky, Dean and Law Professor, Berkeley Law (Formerly Boalt Hall)
Jesse Choper, Former Dean and Law Professor, Berkeley Law (Formerly Boalt Hall)
Donald Polden, Former Dean and Law Professor, Santa Clara University School of Law
Gerald Uelmen, Former Dean and Law Professor, Santa Clara University School of Law

Retired California Supreme Court Justices

Justice Marvin R. Baxter (Ret.), Former California Supreme Court Associate Justice
Justice Joseph Grodin (Ret.), Former California Supreme Court Associate Justice, UC Hastings Law Professor Emeritus
Justice Carlos R. Moreno (Ret.), Former California Supreme Court Associate Justice, J
ustice Edward Panelli (Ret.), Former California Supreme Court Associate Justice,
Justice Cruz Reynoso (Ret.), Former California Supreme Court Associate Justice, UC Davis Law Professor Emeritus


Law School Professors

Robert Calhoun, Golden Gate University Law Professor (Ret.)
Robert Fellmeth, University of San Diego Law Professor
William Gould, IV, Stanford Law Professor, Emeritus
Lynne Henderson, Law Professor, Emerita
Tim Iglesias, University of San Francisco Law Professor
Ellen Kreitzberg, Santa Clara University Law Professor
David Levine, UC Hastings Law Professor Emeritus
Richard Pedersen, Lincoln Law School Law Professor
Margaret Russell, Santa Clara University Law Professor
Maimon Schwarzschild, University of San Diego Law Professor
Elisabeth Semel, Law Professor
Steven Shatz, University of San Francisco Law Professor Emeritus
David Sklansky, Stanford Law Professor, Faculty Co-Director, Stanford Criminal Justice Center (SCJC)


Associate Justices, Court of Appeal

Justice Victoria Chaney, Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Madeleine Flier, Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Elwood Lui, Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Stuart Pollak, Associate Justice, Court of Appeal

Former District Attorneys of Santa Clara County

Hon. Dolores Carr (Ret.), Former District Attorney of Santa Clara County
George Kennedy, Former District Attorney of Santa Clara County


Retired Justices, Court of Appeal

Justice J. Clinton Peterson (Ret.)
Former Presiding Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Barton Gaut (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Earl Johnson, Jr. (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Fred Morrison (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice William Rylaarsdam (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Sheila Sonenshine (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal
Justice Howard Wiener (Ret.)
Former Associate Justice, Court of Appeal


Community Leaders and Supporters

Jan Baszucki
Daniel Becker
Jennifer Benson
Princia Benson
Cyndi Spindell Berck
Mark Borowsky, MD
Todd Bridges
Joan Brodovsky
Andrew Cohen
Robert Downing
Beth Eyerman
Judy Faltz
Françoise Fielding
Mike Fox, Sr.
Damian Garcia
Jacqueline Geist
Sandra Gifford
Reid Greenberg
James Hall
Toni Halliwell
Larry Horton
Michael Hu
Paul Ingmundson
Paul Jensen
Mitch Klinger
Hiromi Kuehberger
Sarah Kuehberger
Jill Lageman
Alan Lambert
Kate Latham
Ivan Light
Greg Loy
Angela Lynch
Emily O'Connell
Carol Maibach
James Manganello
Harry Mason
Carl McGrew
Paul Minnich
Chris Moore
Sascha Mornell
Ronald Nahas
James Newman
Rose Rojas
Glenn Rennels
Peter Ross
Darcy Salas
Daniel Seligson
John Schorsch, MD
Gerald Shefren
Phyllis Sherlock
Steven Silva
Josh Smith
Steven Sodos
Emy Thurber
Richard Tingey
H. A. Tucher
Anna Vinogradoff
Robert Ward
Saul Wasserman, MD
Curt Weil
Mickie Winkler, Former Mayor of Menlo Park
Ze'ev Wurman
Hadassah Wurman
Diana Yu


California Superior Court Judges

Hon. David Abbott
Hon. John Adams
Hon. Verna Adams
Hon. Javier Alcala
Hon. Julia Alloggiamento
Hon. Robert Altman (Ret.)
Hon. Read Ambler (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Mary Arand
Hon. Jacqueline Arroyo
Hon. Paul A. Bacigalupo
Hon. Julian Bailey
Hon. Kenneth Barnum
Hon. Thang Nguyen Barrett
Hon. William Barry
Hon. Paul Beeman, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Helen Bendix
Hon. Stephen Benson
Hon. Peter Berger (Ret.)
Hon. Paul Bernal
Hon. Susan Bernardini (Ret.)
Hon. George Bird, Jr.
Hon. Arthur Bocanegra
Hon. Franklin Bondonno
Hon. Griffin Bonini
Hon. Terry Bork
Hon. Todd Bottke, Presiding Judge and Past President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Christopher Bowen
Hon. Robert Boyd
Hon. Steven Brick (Ret.)
Hon. Gilbert Brown (Ret.)
Hon. Shelyna Brown
Hon. William Brown (Ret.)
Hon. Daniel Buckley, Presiding Judge
Hon. Paul Burdick, Assistant Presiding Judge
Hon. Peter Busch
Hon. Neal Cabrinha (Ret.)
Hon. Dolores Carr (Ret.)
Hon. David Cena
Hon. Ellen Chaitin (Ret.)
Hon. Bruce Chan
Hon. Roy Chernus
Hon. Hilary Chittick
Hon. L. Michael Clark
Hon. Paul Colin
Hon. Julie Conger (Ret.)
Hon. Jaime Corral (Ret.)
Hon. Charles Crandall, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Clifford Cretan
Hon. Kevin Culhane, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Ray Cunningham (Ret.)
Hon. Stephen Cunnison (Ret.)
Hon. Allison Danner
Hon. Elliot Daum
Hon. Raymond Davilla, Jr. (Ret.)
Hon. Cindy Davis
Hon. Marta Diaz
Hon. Jacqueline Duong
Hon. Steve Dylina
Hon. Leonard Edwards (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. William Elfving
Hon. Harry Elias
Hon. Julie Emede
Hon. William Fahey
Hon. John Flaherty (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Andrea Flint
Hon. Robert Foley (Ret.)
Hon. William Follett
Hon. Mark Forcum, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Jose Franco
Hon. Robert Freedman (Ret.)
Hon. Haley Fromholz (Ret.)
Hon. Janet Gaard, Presiding Judge
Hon. John Gallagher
Hon. John Garibaldi (Ret.)
Hon. Eric Geffon
Hon. Charles Gill
Hon. Nazario Gonzales (Ret.)
Hon. Barry Goode
Hon. John Grandsaert
Hon. Mary Greenwood
Hon. Thomas Griego
Hon. Evelio Grillo
Hon. Michael Groch
Hon. Ina Gyemant (Ret.)
Hon. Charles Haines
Hon. William Hamlin
Hon. Allan Hardcastle
Hon. Matthew Harris
Hon. Thomas Hastings (Ret.)
Hon. Douglas Hatchimonji
Hon. Charles Hayden (Ret.)
Hon. David Herriford
Hon. Mark Hood, Presiding Judge
Hon. Geoffrey Howard
Hon. Derek Hunt
Hon. Eugene Hyman (Ret.)
Hon. Garry Ichikawa
Hon. Jerald Infantino (Ret.)
Hon. James Jackman (Ret.)
Hon. Teri Jackson, Presiding Judge
Hon. Samantha Jessner
Hon. James Kaddo
Hon. Harold Kahn
Hon. Jon Karesh
Hon. Marc Kelly
Hon. Peter Kirwan
Hon. James Kleinberg (Ret.)
Hon. Nona Klippen
Hon. Jack Komar (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Quentin Kopp (Ret.)
Hon. Barbara Kronlund
Hon. Sunil Kulkarni
Hon. Dennis Landin
Hon. Edward Lee
Hon. Mary Jo Levinger (Ret.)
Hon. Cynthia Lie
Hon. Ronald Lisk (Ret.)
Hon. Linda Lofthus, Assistant Presiding Judge
Hon. Richard Loftus, Jr. (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. David Long (Ret.)
Hon. Patricia Lucas, Presiding Judge
Hon. Jackson Lucky
Hon. William MacLaughlin
Hon. Patrick Madden
Hon. Katherine Mader
Hon. Ruston Maino
Hon. Jack Mandel (Ret.)
Hon. Stephen Manley
Hon. Socrates Manoukian
Hon. Laura Masunaga, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Michael Mattice
Hon. Linda McFadden
Hon. John McInerny (Ret.)
Hon. Sandra McKeith (Ret.)
Hon. Kevin McKenney (Ret.)
Hon. John Meyer
Hon. Patrick Meyers
Hon. Franz Miller
Hon. Cheryl Mills
Hon. James Mize, Former Presiding Judge and Past President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Terri Mockler
Hon. Anthony Mohr
Hon. William J. Monahan
Hon. Mark Mooney
Hon. Hugh Mullin III (Ret.)
Hon. Jerome Nadler (Ret.)
Hon. Leslie Nichols (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Lawrence Ornell
Hon. Charles Palmer
Hon. Lori Pegg
Hon. Alan Perkins
Hon. James Petrucelli
Hon. Rosemary Pfeiffer (Ret.)
Hon. Rise Pichon, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Mark Pierce
Hon. Lynn Poncin
Hon. Ronald Quidachay
Hon. Hector Ramon
Hon. Stuart Rice, President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Craig Riemer
Hon. Diane Ritchie (Ret.)
Hon. Morton Rochman
Hon. Jeffrey Ross
Hon. David Rubin, Past President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Deborah Ryan, Assistant Presiding Judge
Hon. Philip Saeta (Ret.)
Hon. Robert Schnider (Ret.)
Hon. Shawna Schwarz
Hon. Daphne Scott
Hon. Stuart Scott
Hon. John P. Shook (Ret.)
Hon. Kelly Simmons, Presiding Judge
Hon. Dana Simonds
Hon. Stephanie Sontag
Hon. Andrew Steckler
Hon. John Stewart, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. James Stoelker
Hon. Julianne Sylva
Hon. Drew Takaichi
Hon. Jon Takasugi
Hon. Eric Taylor, Past President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Jamie Thistlethewaite
Hon. Raoul Thorbourne
Hon. Pat Tondreau
Hon. James Towery
Hon. Alison Tucher
Hon. K. C. Twisselman II
Hon. Phillip Urie
Hon. Michael Virga (Ret.), Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Brian Walsh, Former Presiding Judge
Hon. Joan Weber, Past President of the California Judges Association
Hon. Elia Weinbach (Ret.)
Hon. Joshua Weinstein
Hon. Jean Wetenkamp (Ret.)
Hon. Helen Williams
Hon. Thomas Wills
Hon. Peter Wilson
Hon. Charles Wilson, II
Hon. Mark Windham
Hon. Ted Zayner
Hon. Vanessa Zecher

Community Support | Voices Against Recall

[Crashj007]

It seems many of the judge's supporters recognize the registration as a sex offender is a life sentence. The offender is essentially homeless and unemployable for life. That is worse than imprisonment, to my way of thinking. In prison he would be housed, fed, and given medical care. There would be a degree of protection from assault. Out in the world he would have no way of earning a living. Housing restrictions keep him away from schools, day care centers, and any place children gather which includes churches. He will also be at risk of vigilante action. This is a consequence of the registry which is automatic, even though his crime did not involve a minor.

[NoMoreSnowForMe]

Originally Posted by Crashj007

It seems many of the judge's supporters recognize the registration as a sex offender is a life sentence. The offender is essentially homeless and unemployable for life. That is worse than imprisonment, to my way of thinking. In prison he would be housed, fed, and given medical care. There would be a degree of protection from assault. Out in the world he would have no way of earning a living. Housing restrictions keep him away from schools, day care centers, and any place children gather which includes churches. He will also be at risk of vigilante action. This is a consequence of the registry which is automatic, even though his crime did not involve a minor.

True. But, if he'd been given 3 years, he'd also then come out to all of the above. And even though he'll have a hard time getting jobs, etc., he may not be restricted from getting an apartment. Many places don't do really thorough background checks. And some places only deny certain types of crimes. I've been in two senior apartment buildings now with sex offenders living in them with full knowledge of the management. And nobody ever warned the tenants about them.

I just tried to sign up for that app, NextDoor, and they wouldn't let me sign up without proving I wasn't living with the sex offender they found was living in my building. I have no idea who it is. I was able to find out his name on the sex offender website, but I don't know which old guy walking around in my building is him. And never would have known anyone in my building was a sex offender if I hadn't had this experience.

It's not like he'll have a tattoo on his forehead.

So, I don't think that his probation and registered sex offender status is enough of a punishment for what he did, personally.

It's like you can't commit just a little bit of murder. Rape is rape in my book. This was no mistake. I don't agree with letting people have a free pass because it was the first time they got caught.

And we really need to make sure the message is loud and clear that this kind of behavior will not be treated lightly.

I will say that I do know of one instance where someone was considered a sex offender, and I don't think it was fair. And that was a young man who had turned 18 and graduated from high school, but his girlfriend from high school was still in school and not 18 yet. Her parents turned him in for statutory rape. That was unfair.

That's my opinion, anyway.