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Old 08-28-2009, 02:05 PM
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Post Is The South Bay/San Jose The Most Conservative in Bay Area?

According to this list San Jose Beats Savannah Georgia and many other southern cities:

America's most liberal cities in 2005

  1. Detroit, Michigan
  2. Gary, Indiana
  3. Berkeley, California
  4. Washington, D.C.
  5. Oakland, California
  6. Inglewood, California
  7. Newark, New Jersey
  8. Cambridge, Massachusetts
  9. San Francisco, California
  10. Flint, Michigan
  11. Cleveland, Ohio
  12. Hartford, Connecticut
  13. Paterson, New Jersey
  14. Baltimore, Maryland
  15. New Haven, Connecticut
  16. Seattle, Washington
  17. Chicago, Illinois
  18. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
  19. Birmingham, Alabama
  20. St. Louis, Missouri
  21. New York, New York
  22. Providence, Rhode Island
  23. Minneapolis, Minnesota
  24. Boston, Massachusetts
  25. Buffalo, New York
  26. New Orleans, Louisiana
  27. Ann Arbor, Michigan
  28. Jersey City, New Jersey
  29. Portland, Oregon
  30. Daly City, California
  31. Atlanta, Georgia
  32. Dallas, Texas
  33. Hayward, California
  34. Madison, Wisconsin
  35. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
  36. St. Paul, Minnesota
  37. Los Angeles, California
  38. Rochester, New York
  39. Memphis, Tennessee
  40. Milwaukee, Wisconsin
  41. Vallejo, California
  42. Dayton, Ohio
  43. Bridgeport, Connecticut
  44. Springfield, Massachusetts
  45. Syracuse, New York
  46. Jackson, Mississippi
  47. Jackson, Mississippi
  48. Akron, Ohio
  49. Denver, Colorado
  50. Richmond, Virginia
  51. El Monte, California
  52. Pasadena, California
  53. Toledo, Ohio
  54. Eugene, Oregon
  55. Elizabeth, New Jersey
  56. Cincinnati, Ohio
  57. Santa Rosa, California
  58. Worcester, Massachusetts
  59. Kansas City, Missouri
  60. Kansas City, Kansas
  61. Durham, North Carolina
  62. Sunnyvale, California
  63. Alexandria, Virginia
  64. Fremont, California
  65. Tallahassee, Florida
  66. Pomona, California
  67. Lansing, Michigan
  68. Erie, Pennsylvania
  69. Savannah, Georgia
  70. Long Beach, California
  71. Sacramento, California
  72. Greensboro, North Carolina
  73. Hollywood, Florida
  74. San Jose, California

I've noticed a general difference when traveling to the south bay/san jose than in rest of the bay area. South bay cities also have a R+1 (republican) cook pvi rating. Kinda surprising. Whats most surprising is that its a big city but is relatively conservative. Is this more or less your experience?

So more or less the more north you go the more liberal it gets?
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I would who's list is this, and what criteria did they use to compile it?
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Fiscally, maybe. Socially, no way.
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The list is no surprise to me. I remember when Clinton was elected a lot of the engineers at my company basically said it was the end of the world as we knew it. One woman who grew up in Sunnyvale and lived in Fremont was brutally hardline on social issues to as shocking an extent as I've ever known anyone to be and still been friendly. There's of course a spectrum much as you'd find anywhere, but (others may dispute this) I actually found Silicon Valley to be much like OC in its mix of conservative/liberal/in-between.

Remember too that there's a huge Taiwanese community living and doing business in SV. They tend to be very conservative. Also Indian and Persian, though I don't think those communities are quite as staunchly right wing.
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Fiscally, maybe. Socially, no way.
Yeah I wouldn't say they are socially conservative, but fiscally yes. I heard San Jose just elected 2 republicans to their city council which is unheard of in the rest of the Bay Area. Republicans are literrally an endangered species in Bay Area politics. They are nowhere near 10 feet of an elected position.
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I would who's list is this, and what criteria did they use to compile it?
It came from the Bay Area Center For Voting Research I believe. I just googled "most liberal cities in us".
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I would probably also say Central Contra Costa County is a relatively conservative area for the Bay Area. Danville, San Ramon, Lamorinda, Walnut Creek, etc.. are fairly moderate and not as liberal/democratic as western Contra Costa County and a lot of the inner Bay Area. Pleasanton also kind of struck me as somewhat of a conservative area.
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It came from the Bay Area Center For Voting Research I believe. I just googled "most liberal cities in us".


It was a rhetorical question I hate it when people post stuff like that without bothering to check the source. A place I lived was once put on a "Least Attractive People" magazine list, to the great consternation of locals - I mean come on, how do you empirically determine that??? It was obviously a puff piece based on one person's impression, but put it in a Top 10 list and watch it go viral!
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San Jose and Silicon Valley tend to be fiscally conservative, but not socially. It's generally a liberal area, but not as much as San Francisco or Oakland. Not the most conservative part of the Bay Area. That would probably be the inland parts of the East Bay...although that area is more moderate than hardcore conservative.
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I agree with all of that.

I remember last decade that the congressional 10th district (Contra Costa County, mostly) was considered perhaps the most conservative in the Bay Area, and I think it had a Republican majority. Ellen Tauscher (a Democrat) was able to win there in part because she was a fiscal centrist and Bay Area Republicans tend to be moderate on social issues. Later on, redistricting made her job easier.

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San Jose and Silicon Valley tend to be fiscally conservative, but not socially. It's generally a liberal area, but not as much as San Francisco or Oakland. Not the most conservative part of the Bay Area. That would probably be the inland parts of the East Bay...although that area is more moderate than hardcore conservative.
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