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Unread 05-19-2010, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Newark, Ca
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I am a third generation Los Gatan; locals pronounce it Lahs Ghat-as. If you are from the town, you pronounce it like this. A lot of bone heads pronounce it in Spanish (which once mutterd to a native, they know you are not from the area and a dork). Its like San Jose, a lot of folks say "sana zay" if you say it a la espanol its momentarily disturbing. If you are Latino, you can pronounce them in Spanish, but for Anglos, kicking into their high school spanish, its amuzing. If you are going to pronounce in Spanish, I hope you pronounce Los Angeles like lohs angelees and San Francisco like Sahn Franceesco.
Totally agree...a friend of mine and I were talking awhile back about how people who are from San Jose pronounce it as one word- "Sannozay", whereas people from other places clearly pronounce the "h" sound in Jose.
While we're on the topic, you also know somebody's not from here when they're referring to the Santa Clara Valley/San Jose area as just "Santa Clara". Locals know that when you say "Santa Clara" you are specifically referring to the city of Santa Clara. Santa Clara County is the county!
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Unread 05-19-2010, 03:05 PM
 
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LOL. You are so right, too, about "Los Angeles" or "San Francisco." I guess it's just one of those things where you grow up hearing it a certain way it becomes the norm. As opposed to, in my case, reading "Los Gatos" on a map and then hearing it.

I'm going to have to take notes. I should rename this "Things NOT to say in San Jose if you don't want to stand out."
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Unread 05-20-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I should rename this "Things NOT to say in San Jose if you don't want to stand out."


Silly waste of energy trying to please all the locals. If they're so snotty they look down their nose at someone saying a city name properly or a bit different than the local clique, leave 'em to their own sad existence. Thought that was supposed to have been left in high school.

(I lived in the hills above Los Gatos, and the people up there collectively laugh at the people down there because of stuff like this)
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Unread 07-17-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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The Spanish may have originally commented on the big cats in the mountains of the area, but the Town of Los Gatos was founded much later; and in a general area with a number of Portuguese residents (among people of other ethnicities) who influenced the pronunciation of the name. A lot of Bay Area street and place names had their pronunciation influenced by the Portuguese settlers throughout the area. Some of the street and place names were actually named by Portuguese people, not Spanish. This is especially true in Woodside, Pescadero, and a number of the once rural and coastal places throughout San Mateo County, and also throughout Santa Clara County.

A lot of the words in Portuguese look identical, or similar, to Spanish words, but they are pronounced distinctly different. The Portuguese also often made an effort to Americanize their names. There is nothing wrong with this. There is also nothing wrong with the way Americans have further evolved the place and street names in their lives. Language is dynamic.

Gatos in Portuguese is pronounced with a somewhat flatter "a," and the "os" ending is pronounced more like a quickly spoken "oos." I went to one of the online Portuguese language instructional sites, and it said to pronounce the "a" similar to how you would pronounce the "a" in "master, or rather." IMO, it sounds more like a cross between the Spanish "a," and the flat "a" found in American spoken English. Whatever...

At any rate, when in Rome do as the Romans do. If you cannot, or will not, then you are probably not a good match for moving to Rome. ;>)
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Unread 07-20-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Gatos in Portuguese is pronounced with a somewhat flatter "a," and the "os" ending is pronounced more like a quickly spoken "oos."
As long as one does not hang around Santa Cruz Ave. or Main St. saying Los Ghettos, they should get along fine. Otherwise, you will be identified as either a wayward Saratogan or Los Altan trying to be an ass.
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Unread 07-20-2010, 06:17 PM
 
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Same goes for San Rafael in Marin. Locals pronounce Sann Rah Fell vs. Sahn Ra fy ell. (im not very good at the phonetic spellings, but basically locals pronounce Rafael w/ 2 syllables vs. 3.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 09:02 PM
 
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.........same reason Aptos is pronounced Aptas, I guess.

Gatos in Portuguese is pronounced with a somewhat flatter "a," and the "os" ending is pronounced more like a quickly spoken "oos

But, in Portuguese it would be Os Gatos.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: the illegal immigrant state
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For gringos, it's pronounced Los(as in "loss") Gat(as in "cat")os(as in "gross").

There's a proper Spanish pronunciation but you'd have to ask a latin American how to perform it and even when someone did, it would sound so foreign that you would go back to the gringo way of pronouncing it.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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For gringos, it's pronounced Los(as in "loss") Gat(as in "cat")os(as in "gross").
That's how I've always said it. Similar to Los Altos.
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Unread 07-22-2010, 10:57 AM
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Location: Mountain Ranch, CA The heart of Calaveras County
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For gringos, it's pronounced Los(as in "loss") Gat(as in "cat")os(as in "gross").

There's a proper Spanish pronunciation but you'd have to ask a latin American how to perform it and even when someone did, it would sound so foreign that you would go back to the gringo way of pronouncing it.
"Loss" would sound the same as Las, the feminine article. Since Gatos is a masculine noun, Los Gatos is correct and both "o"s are pronounced the same as in the word gross.
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