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Old 03-19-2017, 02:32 PM
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Location: Grozni
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Santa Fe is great ---it is our home...I am currently living in Amarillo, Texas and I like it here but, I am sick to my stomach missing Santa Fe almost every day. The city is not without its problems though and the culture can be very confusing at times. I (we are) am a local and an alumnus of New Mexico State University both bachelor's and master's degrees. I was recruited by the state government to Santa Fe after graduation. We lived in a decent part of town but still experienced some crimes in the neighborhoods next to us. The crimes vary in Santa Fe for some reason, the city had a methamphetamine epidemic before the "Breaking Bad" popularization of the trafficking. And the gangsters and their addicted minions have been known to be particularly brutal (we never had any run-ins though and I always felt generally safe)---the crime that took place next to our neighborhood was a young man who basically doused his uncle with cooking oil and lit him on fire while, he was visiting him at his assisted living community. But the stories about the Native Americans just aren't true; most are essentially peaceful and if you don't go looking to bother them then they are not going to come looking for you either...there are only a few pueblo reservations which, as a person not affiliated with that reservation, you just have no place being there and the locals can be malevolent. But by far the scourge of Santa Fe are property crimes, theft, burglary, crimes that pay and offer economic incentive; basically you will be in a city where there is "money" with a whole bunch of people who are trying to get at it...some can be nasty...and I am only telling the truth. There are also tons of casinos outside and around Santa Fe as toursim and gambling are becoming the economic staple due to overly pernicious state government regulations that essentially suffocate business growth.
In general, the people are a random shot; you never really know what you are going to get. For the most part Santa Fesinos (santa Feans) are civil, cordial and affable (as you are reading a comment from one right now); there is a Northeastern pretension among New Yorkers, other vacationers, retirees and real estate investors etc., but if you are not in their crowd it doesn't matter---you'll never run into them. There is an undercurrent of weird however, that frankly makes no sense for the culture of Santa Fe. Every winter there seems to be a rash of old timey "flashers" who appear on the city's scene. They like to wear women's panty hose and strange outfits and run through the city flashing women and children. They are simply odd, and I can't figure out their significance; I think that some are fall out transients from Las Vegas, Nevada because that is what they remind me of. But now for the good news...there is a large retirement community in Santa Fe and it sounds like you two are prospecting to retire there. So, there is plenty for retirees to do and most are pretty active.

With the types of "money" that are in and around Santa Fe, the ideals of political extremes particularly, "liberal" and "conservative" obfuscate into nothing, with regards to peoples' attitudes and behaviors. Everyone, exists in a common thread with regards to how much money they possess adn spend and whether they will be able to preserve it into the future but, the state government spends money on itself (more government) "like it is going out of style," and unfortunately the overwhelming presence of the state government (because Santa Fe is the Capital) makes select areas of Santa Fe feel like a prison complex outside of prison. However, most people refer to Santa Fe as a more "liberal" city...this partly because the Liberal Democratic Caucus has had a 66 year "iron grip "monopoly on the majority of the state legislature (the current Governor, Susana Martinez is Republican though)---(technically the entire state south of Albuquerque is Republican Conservative and most people there identify with Texas). The cost of living is high but if you are earning approximately or above the median state income or the state's per capita income level you won’t notice it, and you can actually save money year over year. However, your perspective on life in Santa Fe all depends on what you and your husband want from you living experience...Do you want to be on the cutting edge of Santa Fe society? Then you'll have to buy "new" everything: house, car, clothing, dinner parties etc., where you'll be constantly, "keeping up with the Jones,' " while your cost of living goes through the roof. Santa Fe smiles upon bargain hunters though, and If you research and bargain hunt, you can acquire favorable housing that is say, 20 years old or more at a decent price as well, as with the incidental commodities that accompany. The health care is excellent but more expensive if you are not matched by your employer...I suggest Presbyterian Health Care; they are some of the best doctors and medical staff in the world.
As far as the climate is concerned I loved the climate...the only problem that I really faced was the altitude. Las Cruces, NM is a little over 4000 ft. above sea level, Santa Fe is 7000ft plus. I am a jogger and I was slowed down dramatically; I struggled through my 3K and had to stop several times to catch my breath. The weather simply put is "dry." New Mexico in general is working on a twenty-year drought but there is a monsson season in late August that is pretty predictable. You'll like the plaza shopping and outdoor dining and don't worry you'll be safe; bad stuff rarely happens in the plaza during the day thanks to our awesome Police Force. I love books and was relatively preoccupied in my spare time with all of the used book stores. I never went skiing but that too is a temporal hallmark of the Santa Fean economy. If you like skiing then the Taos Ski resort is suppossed to be comparable to some Colorado Ski Resorts.


Happy Santa Feing if you choose Santa Fe as you new relocation...
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Great informative post for relocators, I'm sure, and also a nice history lesson of a place my wife and I enjoy visiting.

I'm confused though at parts of your post.

It appears to me that you're responding to somebody, but started some new thread for some reason.
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:31 PM
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Location: Grozni
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McGowdog,
That is because this was originally a reply to a "relocator."
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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Thanks for your post. As someone who continues searching where to retire you've helped. We love NM and have property in The Sacramento Mts. but are kind of stopped from investing in building as there is not much happening in Arts & Entertainment. We're afraid that if we found it too confining we'd be unable to recoup our investment. We toy with the idea of putting a Camper Pad on the property and putting in a Septic, bringing in the power & water so as to enjoy the beauty with out a huge investment. We visit Santa Fe and Taos (yes, it's very different from SF) often but are put off by what seems like high prices for home in areas not necessarily well kept up. I frequently see nice well kept homes & yards in neighborhoods littered with junk. I am a live and let live guy but it is a turn off. I sometimes get a laugh out of it in that I think Santa Fesinos & Taosenos are getting a good laugh out of keeping newcomers out. Pretty smart! El Dorado seems like a reasonable alternative but it get pricey and is a bit isolated.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:07 PM
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Location: Grozni
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Yes the out skirts of Santa Fe and real estate developments get expensive...and please don't take some of my criticisms of Santa Fe as overly negative...the city is overwhelmingly pleasant and calm most of the time... I am "technically" an "insider" of the Santa Fe community (I am in a strange place in my life at the moment) and I become offended at some of the "crazy" crap that residents of Santa Fe have to tolerate in such a wonderful city and the negative image that the "crap" brings down on Santa Fe.
If you are an "outsider" of sorts and on a budget you really need to be aware of some of the strange and sinister stuff that happens in and around parts of Santa Fe; that way you'll know how to avoid it and enjoy your time in The City Different a lot more...You might also look at Mora, NM or Calyton, NM (there are alot of Northeastern people who are buying property in those two areas). I am also from Las Cruces, NM southward from Santa Fe...you might be interested in Sonoma Ranch or one of the other retirement communities that real estate investors are developing there on the NORTH side of town...
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Old Today, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Santa Fe, NM
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The OP was apparently replying to a "relocator", but that poster's question is not included in this string. Therefore I am unable to respond intelligently to this thread - as much as I'd like to.
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Old Today, 03:32 PM
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Location: Grozni
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Originally Posted by GreatSantaFe View Post
The OP was apparently replying to a "relocator", but that poster's question is not included in this string. Therefore I am unable to respond intelligently to this thread - as much as I'd like to.
The original post that I was replying to was the "Considering Relocating to Santa FE" post and the OP is present here and has commented several times on this post. Another moderator interpreted what I wrote to the OP (essentially "Santa Fe is wonderful but you need to be aware of its current inherent problems") as a "Rant and Rave," defamatory comment and as a "totally" negative perception of Santa Fe as a city; which attacked the PC culture and as potentially damaging to the tourism industry and the "reputation" of Santa Fe...
He actually removed the post and blocked it but someone else (I don't know who) brought it back as a post...I guess that it is now more of a discussion post over whether or not what I wrote as an experience in Santa Fe is true or not...Which it is true because we are/were citizens of Santa Fe, alumni of NMSU and have lived all over the wonderful state of New Mexico (as we are now departing Alumni from "The Land of Enchantment")...I guess if you want you can agree or disagree with my "post" through civil discourse but nobody really enters this post anymore ---even myself; it is kind of a "dead" post as we have all kind of moved on to other things. [CENTER]GuardarGuardar[/CENTER]
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