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04-03-2009, 06:06 AM
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Location: Santa Fe, NM
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The only thing was that my husband was nearly run over 2 times by drivers who were anxious to enter the crosswalk to make their right turn, even though we had the green light. In Cali, this offense would be considered Assault and is an arrestable offense.
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I would not call that a Santa Fe phenomenon. That stuff happens in big cities and small towns all over the world.
In addition, I personally do not hate or dislike tourist. 99% of tourist are very friendly. It helps the city to be vibrant and remain marketable.
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04-03-2009, 10:49 AM
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Enchanted to be here
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Mexico
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Originally Posted by Cali-girl
As you probably noticed, this particular Forum does not take kindly to opinions expressed other than anything "positive."
The only thing was that my husband was nearly run over 2 times by drivers who were anxious to enter the crosswalk to make their right turn, even though we had the green light. In Cali, this offense would be considered Assault and is an arrestable offense.
Afterwards, a friendly Las Crucan told me that "Santa Feans despise tourists". I wouldn't be quick to lump all Santa Feans in this category, nonetheless, we won't be returning any time soon. Everyone has their own experiences and this was ours and I hope that my experience will be respected and not bashed.
~Cali-girl 
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I don't agree with you about only positive here--I've posted the negative sides to Santa Fe and haven't been bashed. I've talked in one thread about my experiences as a pedestrian here (almost getting run over) versus Seattle where they stop if it looks like you're going to step into the street and give tickets for not yielding the right of way to pedestrians. LOL--I'd love to see just once someone get a ticket for scaring the s...t out of me when I forget that the walk sign means walk with caution! It's how you say the negative things, if you make broad vague negative statements you should be called on it--give more specifics where you come up with the statements otherwise you sound bitter and unbelievable. Actually broad positive statements are also more informative if you say what it is you like.
We do have a little fun with the tourists because they tend to be self absorbed with their fun experiences and forget this city isn't all about them--that people live here for other reasons other than to serve as the DisneyWorld of the Southwest. Better to keep a sense of humor about it then hate them, which I haven't personally seen. Sometimes I say hi to people on the street and sometimes I don't. I'm sure that's no different than anywhere else. Often I see bad customer service but it's not just tourist that suffer from that and it's also anywhere I go in any state. Would we prefer to have more industry based on something other than tourism? Personally I would since the tourism doesn't pay squat and if I lose my job I'll have to move and I like living here. On the other side, there is always something to do probably because of the tourism. Mixed bag.
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04-03-2009, 12:07 PM
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Real Estate Agent
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santa Fe NM
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Answering Your Question...
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Originally Posted by chrissedgwick
Tierra de zia
Tuscany at St. Francis
The bluffs at tierra contenta
Dos Santos
...Also if anyone has any good opportunities or ideas(living outside of town, some secret northern santa fe rentals) i would be much obliged.
chris
www.crsedgwick.com
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While the last 6 pages of comments have been fun - and of course I always appreciate the realtor digs. Anyway, my thoughts on the apartments are -
Tierra de Zia - good location, several properties for sale there, good landscaping
Zia Vista - not on your list, but near Tierra de Zia. Good pool, more 'traditional' apt complex, can be tough to sell there as there's always someone who will list cheaper. So, therefore, good bargains for buyers. Well managed.
Tuscany - my understanding is that it's rental only. Well managed, good location
Dos Santos - personally I like this property, mainly because of the layout and open feel. Mixed quality of apartments -- I mean mixed, as some of the blocks are well finished. Good pricing.
Bluffs - I don't know enough about this.
Others to consider:
The Reserve - northside, so more expensive, but closer to town than the ones above.
San Mateo - nice complex, go for newer units - walking distance to Trader Joe's ;-+
Hope that helps.
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04-03-2009, 12:08 PM
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Real Estate Agent
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santa Fe NM
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Also, as ever, Santa Fe Craigslist is a great source for FSBOs and last-minute rentals.
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04-03-2009, 12:10 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Beautiful California
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Well thanks Cali-girl, it's nice not to be met with hostility  . Maybe you're right, maybe it's realtors. I thought it was just a "be mean to the new girl thing." Glad your husband survived his crosswalk close calls in SF. It does get hairy downtown  .
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Hi wendyto!
You "hit the nail on the head" with your observations.
btw, this situation has been going on for some time, which is why I don't post in the NM Forums any more (except for very recently and even then, what you see will be pretty much *it*.)
One last thing: the open hostility of certain segments of Santa Fe has become more and more evident to Californians. I don't have to say anything...when I say "New Mexico," there is a noticeable pause in conversations with fellow Californians and I can just feel the heaviness.
There was a recent show on satellite showing a Californian subjected to emotional abuse in Albuquerque - I think that is having a lot of play.
In any event, word is apparently getting around and its not good.
Aging boomers generally are the ones retiring to Santa Fe. And they're the ones who principally post hostile comments on this Forum.
Whatever. Californians will continue to read stuff like this and will choose to avoid doing the tourist thing or buying property here. Sometimes, consequences are far worse than we can ever imagine.
Sorry, one more: Cali has Rancho Santa Fe in northern San Diego County. People who want the architecture without leaving CA are buying there.
Best to you,
~Cali-girl 
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04-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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Green please!
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Burque!
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Originally Posted by Cali-girl
I'm sorry, but I fail to see the humor in this situation. The "smilies" you chose are completely inappropriate. However, maybe that was the intent.
~Cali-girl (sister to a US Marshall)
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04-03-2009, 02:10 PM
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Green please!
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Rancho Santa Fe?
That sounds awful. Please stay.
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04-03-2009, 02:14 PM
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Well, for whatever it's worth Cali-girl, I'm a new kid on this forum too, and a native Californian, and everyone here has been extremely nice and helpful to me. In fact, this is probably one of the friendliest and most helpful forums I've ever found, and I work online and participate in many.
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04-03-2009, 02:17 PM
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An automatic weapon is of limited usefullness in most cases. For one thing, regardless of circumstances, the authorities will throw the book at you for using an auto, even if you're fighting off a whole drug cartel hit team single-handed. For another, you may well shoot bystanders in the spray. A shotgun is good at close range, and getting proficient with a hand gun is very useful. You may actually have the hand gun with you when the unexpected happens. You won't have the auto.
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04-03-2009, 02:22 PM
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Green please!
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Burque!
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Originally Posted by Bideshi
An automatic weapon is of limited usefullness in most cases. For one thing, regardless of circumstances, the authorities will throw the book at you for using an auto, even if you're fighting off a whole drug cartel hit team single-handed. For another, you may well shoot bystanders in the spray. A shotgun is good at close range, and getting proficient with a hand gun is very useful. You may actually have the hand gun with you when the unexpected happens. You won't have the auto.
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Thanks for getting this thread back on topic.
I'll second the useful nature of the shotgun... maybe a pistol-grip with turquoise will add the Santa Fe flare you're looking for. I know that's what I look for in my firearms. 
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