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Old 08-01-2011, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Is Cafe L'Europe still on St. Armand's Circle? French cuisine, not a chain as far as I know, and it was certainly MY idea of finer-than-normal dining, not sure if it would be yours.
We like Cafe L'Europe, but it definitely isn't what I think of when I think of "French cuisine." It's decent, but the service has been a little choppy, and the food is just "better than most places in Sarasota." They do a decent carpaccio, which is nice. I have never tried their chateubriand (because it is for two) or their Dover sole (because I have trust issues), though, which I should. Also, their wine and after dinner drink selection is very good...nice brandies and cognacs, even some grappas.

Speaking of Cafe L'Europe, here is a symptom of the problem (I just realized this):

Virtually without exception, all of the supposedly decent places around here will have a duck dish, but it will always be in a sweet sauce of some sort (orange or cherry...in fact, Cafe L'europe does it in BOTH, not each...BOTH). I think this is a pretty good indicator that the chefs are sort of cooking down to the people in the area (as the sweet sauce is used to mitigate the flavor of what less sophisticated palates will consider a gamier meat [(duck]). The only decent duck I have had in town (aside from Bangkok Thai red curry duck) was at Paris To Budapest in Gulf Gate, and that was because I asked the chef to modify it for me.

I'm not trying to be a snob, but I really don't want a beautiful confit de canard or magret slathered in some childish thing I would sooner put on my toast at breakfast.

Maybe I am just cranky this morning.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, FL
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Well, I'm not a duck person, but isn't Duck l'Orange a classic French dish? Anyway, in looking at Cafe L'Europe's menu again, it's not quite as upscale as I had remembered. I get turned off by any menu that has "surf and turf" on it.....which theirs does. However, it definitely was a step up from many of the other chains and tourist traps in the area.

What about the restaurants at the Ritz-Carlton?
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Well, I'm not a duck person, but isn't Duck l'Orange a classic French dish? Anyway, in looking at Cafe L'Europe's menu again, it's not quite as upscale as I had remembered. I get turned off by any menu that has "surf and turf" on it.....which theirs does. However, it definitely was a step up from many of the other chains and tourist traps in the area.

What about the restaurants at the Ritz-Carlton?
Yes, done right, duck l'orange is very good, and it is a classic French dish. It should be roasted, crisped under the broiler, sauced, and finished. I don't see that here; I see a lot of burn and turn rubbery duck with supersweet sauce.

Anyway, I always prefer the confit or the roasted or sauteed breast.

I have heard that there could be a decent meal to be had at the Ritz-Carlton. I need to look into it.

As soon as that second mortgage comes through.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Hi Rushmore,
My name is Lindsay and I'm the Social Media Manager for Landry's Inc., owner of the Chart House. I'm sorry to hear you had such poor food and service in Longboat Key. We would like the opportunity to talk to you about your experience and improve. Please email me at webfeedback@ldry.com if you are willing to talk to our general manager. Thanks, and sorry again.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Punta Gorda and Maryland
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Hi Rushmore,
My name is Lindsay and I'm the Social Media Manager for Landry's Inc., owner of the Chart House. I'm sorry to hear you had such poor food and service in Longboat Key. We would like the opportunity to talk to you about your experience and improve. Please email me at webfeedback@ldry.com if you are willing to talk to our general manager. Thanks, and sorry again.

Wow! That's nice. Last time people had an issue with a restaurant down here - they got a run around for weeks, and the circumstances were far worse than just a bad meal.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Punta Gorda and Maryland
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Yes, done right, duck l'orange is very good, and it is a classic French dish. It should be roasted, crisped under the broiler, sauced, and finished. I don't see that here; I see a lot of burn and turn rubbery duck with supersweet sauce.

Anyway, I always prefer the confit or the roasted or sauteed breast.

I have heard that there could be a decent meal to be had at the Ritz-Carlton. I need to look into it.

As soon as that second mortgage comes through.
They have a fantastic duck breast item on the menu at the Opus - it is what I had in mind for you when I made the recommendation for you to give it a try.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: NH/Englewood, FL
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Hi Rushmore,
My name is Lindsay and I'm the Social Media Manager for Landry's Inc., owner of the Chart House. I'm sorry to hear you had such poor food and service in Longboat Key. We would like the opportunity to talk to you about your experience and improve. Please email me at webfeedback@ldry.com if you are willing to talk to our general manager. Thanks, and sorry again.

Wow, who let the dogs out???? They heard you, Rushmore!
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:54 PM
 
Location: SWFL
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Rushmore,
Please give us an update on how this all shakes out...
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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I have emailed the address listed, but and to be clear: I am not after anything, and I do not expect any compensation.

It was a solid gesture for any representative from Chart House to respond here. I am happy to give credit where due.

Meanwhile, we just had dinner for four at Stonewood on Stickney Point, and it was considerably less money, and easily twice as good.

Yes, it's a chain, but they definitely know what they're doing.

I would go there for the house smoked salmon appetizer alone, which is only TEN BUCKS.

Last edited by Rushmore; 08-01-2011 at 07:49 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: NH/Englewood, FL
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Obviously, they have Ms Lindsay trolling the boards. I'm sure you're not the only one, Rushmore, that have been less than happy with the Chart House. That response was just too quick. Good for you.
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