Young family looking to relocate to Venice (Tampa, Plantation: sale, HOA fees)

[macrodome2]

If you have kids and you want a planned community, there are only 3 in Venice that have a bunch of kids. Stoneybrook, Grand Palm, and Gran Paradiso. When you go to a planned community, look at the amenities. Do they have basketball or bocce ball? Pickleball or playground? Milano, Caribbean Village, no playground, but bocce ball. Unfortunately, the realtors can't help here, but the amenities are a dead give away.

[llrivero]

Originally Posted by macrodome2

I don't live in the City of Venice, but the area outside the City which is still called Venice. Our water bull has never exceeded $70/mo which includes water and sewer.

South Venice and West Villages are two different communities, I can't believe a Real Estate Agent is saying this.

South Venice is in Venice. It's closer to the beach, and runs from the Venice Airport south to Englewood. There is a ferry that will take you to their beach. There is no HOA. A lot of the homes are well water and septic.

West Villages is further east in North Port. Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in West Villages. The new development where the summer training facility will be is in West Villages. Mattamy, a Canadian builder is building a large development off of Route 41 east of Gran Paradiso.

Thank you macrodome. Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in the West Villages...... which is located in Venice. Not North Port. Yes... South Venice is in Venice. South END of Venice perhaps is what I should have said; off of 41.

Next time I will definitely "clarify" my response.

Have a great day!

[macrodome2]

Originally Posted by llrivero

Thank you macrodome. Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in the West Villages...... which is located in Venice. Not North Port. Yes... South Venice is in Venice. South END of Venice perhaps is what I should have said; off of 41.

Next time I will definitely "clarify" my response.

Have a great day!

No, West Villages is in North Port. Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in North Port.

South Venice is west of 41 and south of the City of Venice and is considered part of Venice. If you're interested in South Venice another area similar to South Venice is Venice Gardens. That's the area east of the 41 Bypass around Shamrock Rd and is in Venice. Google "map of south venice" and you'll see it to the right of South Venice on the map.

[jean_ji]

South Venice is not considered part of the City of Venice, it's an unincorporated part of Sarasota County with all county services and county taxes only, and is also referred to as a census-designated place (CDP) in Sarasota county. It has no HOA, deed restrictions and a voluntary membership to the South Venice Civic Association. It does have a Venice mailing address, as do some of the other developments further south and east of South Venice, such as Island Walk, which makes it confusing.

[MattMN]

Originally Posted by macrodome2

No, West Villages is in North Port. Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in North Port.

South Venice is west of 41 and south of the City of Venice and is considered part of Venice. If you're interested in South Venice another area similar to South Venice is Venice Gardens. That's the area east of the 41 Bypass around Shamrock Rd and is in Venice. Google "map of south venice" and you'll see it to the right of South Venice on the map.

I think you can both be technically right and wrong. If you enter North Port on google maps, it covers Gran Paradiso. But even the Lennar website lists it and advertises it as part of Venice.

If you enter Venice on google maps, it doesn't even technically cover the intersection of 41 and Center Rd, but that sure seems like Venice to me.

Personally, everything west of River Road feels more like Venice that North Port, but I guess it depends how technical one wants to get. I'd say for Gran Paradiso and Island Walk, you could make a valid argument for either and both be right.

[macrodome2]

I was basing my answer on where your property taxes go. The previous poster is right. There is the City of Venice, then there's the unincorporated part of Sarasota called Venice. When you google "map venice fl" you get the City of Venice, not the unincorporated part.

The developers like to say Gran Paradiso and IslandWalk are in Venice and they may have a Venice mailing address, but your property taxes go to North Port. The West Villages is a part of North Port for tax purposes.

[JJGittes65]

OK, so Gran Paradiso and Islandwalk have Venice addresses, but pay tax to North Port.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Would there be an advantage if the taxes went to Venice? Why should it be a consideration?

[llrivero]

Everybody is right! It has a Venice address........ property taxes go to Sarasota County and a portion go to North Port for rescue and emergency services

See below, copied from the Sarasota County Tax Office for Island Walk

Sarasota Co. General Revenue
Bonds-Debt Service
Mosquito Control 0.0530
Sarasota Memorial Hospital
SW FL Water Management Dist.
West Coast Inland Navigation 0.0394
Sarasota School Board
School District Fund
School Capital Impr
City of North Port

[Scottish Lassie]

I have to agree that having an valid address in Venice and paying taxes in North Port does sound confusing and somewhat of a worry.
If a property is assessed at $300,000 this is how they break it down....Just to give you a idea, hope this helps clarify everything

Ad Valorem
Taxing authority Millage Assessed Exemption Taxable Tax Tax
SARASOTA CO. GENERAL REVENUE 3.1962 300,000 50,000 250,000 $799.05 $958.86
BONDS DEBT SERVICE 0.142 300,000 50,000 250,000 $35.50 $42.60
MOSQUITO CONTROL 0.053 300,000 50,000 250,000 $13.25 $15.90
SARASOTA MEMORIAL HOSPITAL 1.0525 300,000 50,000 250,000 $263.13 $315.75
SW FL WATER MANAGEMENT DIST. 0.3317 300,000 50,000 250,000 $82.93 $99.51
WEST COAST INLAND NAVIGATION 0.0394 300,000 50,000 250,000 $9.85 $11.82
SARASOTA SCHOOL BOARD 5.933 300,000 25,000 275,000 $1,631.58 $1,779.90
SCHOOL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT 1.5 300,000 25,000 275,000 $412.50 $450.00
CITY OF NORTH PORT 3.477 300,000 50,000 250,000 $869.25 $1,043.10
Total 15.7248 $4,117.03 $4,717.44
Non Ad Valorem
Levying Authority Amount Amount
NORTH PORT FIRE AND RESCUE $319.32 $319.32
NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE $249.00 $249.00
WEST VILLAGES IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT $622.18 $622.18
NORTH PORT ROAD AND DRAINAGE $15.20 $15.20
NORTH PORT R&D CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT $0.01 $0.01
Total $1,205.71 $1,205.71
Combined taxes and assessments $5,322.74 $5,923.15

[JJTT]

Hot, Humid, Flat, no shade, no seasons, old people.....
I see few people outside because of the above.
We are counting down to when able to move out of here.

You may like it if you are not active people and wish to stay inside most of the year though