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Old 02-17-2010, 12:49 AM
 
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Hi all,

Been something of a long-time lurker, first time poster, just wanted to introduce m'self as my wife and I will probably be asking way too many questions in the near future! As the topic says, we're living in the suburbs of Chicago now, and on this balmy 19 degree evening our move plans are in the very early stages. We're scouting areas and schools and such...no kids yet, but I'm sure the clock is ticking on that count! My father lives in Sarasota now, and I'm ready to NOT be getting the call of "15 there? Well it's 65 here, we put another log on the fire..."

I don't think either of us will get a relo package, I'm a personal banker for and my wife is an elementary teacher (2nd grade,) but we have a savings plan set. While my bank won't pay for me to move, they will move my job for me, so that's not a concern. I think the biggest question I have is to any of you who are teachers as well, what recommendations can you make? By the time we move (after the 2010-2011 school year) she will have her masters in reading and a gifted endorsement, and would really love to get into a gifted position or reading specialist, but she does enjoy classroom teaching as well. Which elem schools have the reputation down there? We'll be pounding pavement probably this June to get her name out and foot in the door for the following year, but would love to get some advance scout work done ;-)

Look forward to talking more to y'all in the near future!
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Old 02-17-2010, 01:47 AM
 
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think soflgal can help you there -im sure her kids go to a gifted school of some sort
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Old 02-17-2010, 05:30 AM
 
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We get a lot of questions about teaching positions. Here are some recent posts:
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thinking of moving back once i finish off my degree here in new york/long island, but perhaps sooner if there are good universities in the area there.

1. How are the colleges there that i can transfer to (graduate level) for teacher certification?

2. How easy is it for a teacher with a master's degree to land a job there. Early intervention or pre-k-2nd grade teacher?

3. I have 2 toddlers and would like to know opinions/experiences of raising little ones there.

We can afford a home in the high 200's/ low 300's price range. Husband can work anywhere from home.

Thanks!
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there are no teaching jobs here. I know of three teachers here that work full time at wal-mart. Teacher unions aren't negotiating with school districts over raises, it's all about cutting benefits, wages, insurance. Most businesses down here don't offer insurance. You would have to get your own, while still making less than 10 bucks an hour. Most of the time it is minimum wage for any job only because the law won't let them pay you less...or they would.

Horrid market for jobs or houses. I'm trying to get out and i have a ma in analytical geometry.

If i am painting a bleak picture, then you got it right.
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hi everyone. I am a certified high school teacher in ny but have never taught in high school. I have been teaching college courses as an adjunct for the past 7 years. Currently, i have only been given 3 courses this semester, the worst it has ever been. There is no way i can live on 3 courses and stay in ny. I was looking to relocate, in the next few weeks, to st. Pete. Does anyone know the availability of teaching jobs in high schools or college? Is it easy to secure adjunct positions?? I've been looking on craigslist and 1 bedroom apartments are so cheap and affordable!! I pay 900 a month here and it seems in fl i can get something beautiful for only 5 or 600 a month. Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks.
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florida has a wonderful virtual school for middle and high school (www.flvs.net). My daughter is taking high school latin. Her teacher lives in the tallahassee area, so it does not matter where you live, but you probably have to live in florida. I know they were looking for teachers last year.

You will have a big cut in pay, although you said you are an adjunct. They probably pay adjuncts lower than what you are making now. Even though the rent is cheaper, pay is much cheaper too and jobs are scarce. It evens out in the end.

A friend of mine was a teacher in nyc (staten island) and moving down here, she took a $20k cut in pay, 5 years ago before the bubble burst. Now they are probably paying lower.
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sorry, we're currently in nh. My husband is considering a teaching job...
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not alot of teaching jobs here so dont move until one is in the bag.
On a personal note i understand schools prefer home grown educated teachers and give them preference for employment as they have interned with them and so they get a headstart (my daughter is training to be a teacher at usf)
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thought i would post this for all interested. This is happening in naples, but i am sure it goes on all over the state, and the country.

I just found out that they are opening 4 new classes for special needs students where i work. We were told this and have been encouraged to attend classes in this field. We also were told of another opening at the school and asked if we "knew" anyone who might be interested in applying.

I happened to run into a former coworker today at publix. She said her job is being eliminated as of june. I told her about the 4 new classes opening next year at my school. She was very happy. None of this has been posted yet. Only those actually working at the school know about this.

What i would like to say is this. At least in education, the first preference for any new jobs go to current staff whose postions have been eliminated. After that, current staff is notified of openings and their recommendations are given first preference. After that, the jobs are open to the general public.

I would imagine it is probably more or less the same in any field. If you can possibly network, do it.
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i'm from wisconsin looking to relocate and find a teaching job in physical education. I've been substitute teaching for 5 years now and would really like a full-time job. Any opinions on a nice place to live in florida? And any place that will be looking for p.e. Teachers??
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a lot of florida 2009 bs in ed graduates were not able to find jobs last year and many have not even been able to get on as subs because many counties have a freeze on hiring. Also many non tenured teachers were laid off last year so they are the people doing most of the subbing .

Can you find a job teaching? Anything is always possible. Usually math, science, and exceptional ed classroom teachers have an easier time finding jobs. That said, i have a part timer at the store i work that graduated last year with a biology major and has not been able to get a teaching job here. As for subbing. I have many years of teaching elem. School under my belt and decided to check on subbing this year and couldn't get my foot back in the door.
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is the market descent for teachers right now? Are there certain areas of the city or surrounding area where i'm more likely to find a teaching job? What areas are unsafe? Any help you can give is greatly appreciated! Thank you!!
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i know an experienced teacher who has been looking since last summer and still cannot find work. Have you considered teaching with www.flvs.net? It is florida's virtual school. I have heard they always need teachers. It has a great reputation.
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it looks like they are actively recruiting...

Per teacher interview days registration :

the annual "job fair" called teacher interview days (tid) and the renaissance expo are both scheduled for mid june 2010. Download flyer (pdf) there will be one registration period:
tid / expo registration is now open
registration will be closed may 7th at 4pm.
•all tid registrants must have completed an online employment application! And that online application must have an active status.
•if your testing and certification information needs to be updated, please do so as soon as possible! Send to human resources application center 2920 north 40th street * tampa, fl 33605.

also, it should be noted that hillsborough county is recent recipient of a $100 million gates foundation grant.

And it should also be noted that the county's 2009 graduation rate was 82.2%. Florida averages 76% (national rate was 69.2% in 2006--i don't see 2009 numbers for national on a quick google).
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yes, they're recruiting. They're just not hiring but a handful of positions every year.
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you might want to look into what's going on at the separate high schools. I learned yesterday, due to budget cuts, western let go of 9 math teachers last year and are no longer paying the remaining ones stipends for math competitions. The teacher at yesterday's regionals was a science teacher because none of the remaining math teachers were willing to sponsor it unpaid.
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Hello all if you are not a teacher, you can stop reading as this post will bore you. I have a couple fo questions for any teachers out there.

1. What is the job market looking like for a middle school LA/ SS teacher who coaches 3 sports?

2. Do the middle schools out there have sports?

3. Would I have to get a Florida certificate before I could teach in Fl?

Thanks so much for any help.
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1. Not so good right now. Budget cuts have prompted some Bay area counties to lay off teaching staff--even extending to the often short supply of Science and Math teachers.

2. Yes.

3. Yes. Read about it here: Certified Teacher or Administrator



Good luck!
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Old 02-17-2010, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Palm Island and North Port
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Pine View School is a full time gifted public school. You do need your gifted endorsement to teach there. I have two kids that go to PV and we absolutely love it. I have heard about hiring freezes in the school system but I do know there were around six new teachers hired this past teaching year at PV.

If I were to read the papers or listen to the chatter I would be led to believe there were never going to be any teaching jobs. I don't know personally if there are going to be any openings next year but you could start here: Sarasota County Schools, Home asking questions. Here are some of the requirements for teachers in the Sarasota school system: Sarasota County Schools Human Resources Liz Elliott is the head of the gifted division at the school board. She might be a good person to speak with in reference to anyone being hired for gifted.

Good luck with your search
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Old 02-17-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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every public school in Sarasota county has to offer a G/T class--if there are eligible students--and it is a self-contained classroom situation--not a pull-out for couple of hours a week one...so your wife MIGHT be able to get a G/T job in any public school BUT from what my daughter who teaches at Pine View says things are going to be tight there this coming year
there were some teachers last year that were RIFed--she got a teacher on her team with more senority who was moved from another county school into PV and teacher with less senority was cut--my daughter said she though THAT teacher did not get another job locally...
and there are other stories like that...

your wife needs to have a showbook of her work product--put it on a DVD--put a video of her teaching part of a class maybe--get some recommendations from her principal or lead teacher--and send packets to principals of schools she thinks might fit her...
she must be agressive in seeking a job because there is going to be tremendous pressure on principals to hire from within the system

plus there is tax referendum on the ballot to keep small portion of sales tax for school enhancement programs--if it does not pass schools will be forced to tighten their programs even more...
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Old 02-17-2010, 10:45 PM
 
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Well, we somewhat expected the situation to be a not so much what you know but who you know. That's teaching jobs ANYWHERE, unfortunately. She's up against a potential strike at the end of next year anyway, so it's something of a good time to go! I'm hoping that we can get a lot of legwork done in the next couple months, and we plan to visit in early June of this year. Also hoping that my dad can be a good asset for us down there since he's...y'know...already there! Thanks so much for the info so far, appreciate the really quick answers! Good thought on the dvd or video, I suggested it to her. She has great recommendations from her principal. The websites are usually helpful for general school info, but they never post openings until the spring (if there are any.) Thanks for the info on Pine View too...will be checking all of the above out.

We expected a lot of competition for positions, it's not like it was a few years ago when openings were a dime a dozen (when FL had a net immigration instead of emigration!) What a difference a year can make though. I see people daily at work of all age groups who are packing up and moving to SW Florida, so hopefully the situation will not be as tight in the next couple years! Thanks again all!


So my next question...we're spending so much time thinking about us, we're also bringing our golden retriever and beagle/basset/jack russell mix. I've seen info and a few pics about the Brohard Park, and it looks like the Golden's dream (Beagle's nightmare, but she can dig in the sand!) For anyone who's been, is the land area fenced and the water kinda open? Complete free range? Fence in the water? The Golden wouldn't run, he knows where his bread is buttered, but the Beagle has a fiercely independent streak (as Beagles do) and first sight of a bird, squirrel, or something shiny and she's off. Also, what's enforcement like for aggressive breeds? We've had issues here with the "Lab mixes" that are clearly almost full Pit or Rott. While I always believe it's the people who make the dog aggressive, and have met some sweetheart Pits, it's still a concern! Again, thanks so much!


***SoFLGal, just saw your pics from the Brohard beach in a post from last March...looks like my Stitch's dream come true!

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Old 02-18-2010, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Palm Island and North Port
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Well, we somewhat expected the situation to be a not so much what you know but who you know. That's teaching jobs ANYWHERE, unfortunately. She's up against a potential strike at the end of next year anyway, so it's something of a good time to go! I'm hoping that we can get a lot of legwork done in the next couple months, and we plan to visit in early June of this year. Also hoping that my dad can be a good asset for us down there since he's...y'know...already there! Thanks so much for the info so far, appreciate the really quick answers! Good thought on the dvd or video, I suggested it to her. She has great recommendations from her principal. The websites are usually helpful for general school info, but they never post openings until the spring (if there are any.) Thanks for the info on Pine View too...will be checking all of the above out.

We expected a lot of competition for positions, it's not like it was a few years ago when openings were a dime a dozen (when FL had a net immigration instead of emigration!) What a difference a year can make though. I see people daily at work of all age groups who are packing up and moving to SW Florida, so hopefully the situation will not be as tight in the next couple years! Thanks again all!


So my next question...we're spending so much time thinking about us, we're also bringing our golden retriever and beagle/basset/jack russell mix. I've seen info and a few pics about the Brohard Park, and it looks like the Golden's dream (Beagle's nightmare, but she can dig in the sand!) For anyone who's been, is the land area fenced and the water kinda open? Complete free range? Fence in the water? The Golden wouldn't run, he knows where his bread is buttered, but the Beagle has a fiercely independent streak (as Beagles do) and first sight of a bird, squirrel, or something shiny and she's off. Also, what's enforcement like for aggressive breeds? We've had issues here with the "Lab mixes" that are clearly almost full Pit or Rott. While I always believe it's the people who make the dog aggressive, and have met some sweetheart Pits, it's still a concern! Again, thanks so much!


***SoFLGal, just saw your pics from the Brohard beach in a post from last March...looks like my Stitch's dream come true!
The dogs have free range of the beach. There is a fence when you first go in to protect the dogs from the road. They also have a washing stand there. I always bring their shampoo and clean them right up there so when we head home they are nice and clean. Once you leave the fenced area you head down a pretty long path that has trees on either side and then there's a small boardwalk and then beach. There is no fence or guard in the water.

When I first started bringing my dogs there my Zero was famous for getting out of the house and running away. It was kind of funny though whenever I brought him to the beach he just hung right around the main part of the beach. I think it's more interesting to the dogs being around other dogs than running away.

I've never had an issue with any of the dogs at the dog beach and my Danny can be somewhat obnoxious. He stands in front of other dogs and barks really loud in their face. He just wants to play but it can be really annoying to other dogs and people.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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A few comparisons, so when you do make your move OP, you will not be so surprised.

1. Chicagoans tell it like it is....Sarasotans would rather tell a happy little lie to you, and then tell the truth to everyone else when you're not there.

2. Chicago crappy weather 80% of the time...Sarasota fantastic weather 95% of the time.

3. Chicago food... fabulous, (You will miss it). Sarasota food, meh...even the best restaurants like Michaels on East cannot stand up to hundreds of restaurants in Chicago.

4. In Chicago when someone makes an appointment for a service mechanic to be there at 10:00am, they will be. In Sarasota, your service mechanic will make the appointment for somewhere between 10am and 2pm. There's never a rush to get things done here.

5. You know if someone likes you in Chicago...In Sarasota, you will think everyone likes you, but you'll be wrong half the time.

6. Chicagoans know their neighbors pretty well...Sarasotans know they have neighbors.

7. Chicagoans walk daily out of necessity...Sarasotans walk for fitness. In other words, be prepared to drive everywhere.

Good luck on your move.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Hi there, and welcome! you will find this forum very helpful and you will meet so many great people! I can be helpful with school information in Sarasota county and Manatee. Im a teacher at an ESE school in Sarasota. My husband made the move from Chicago Suburbs also, weve been here for four years.. let me know what I can do!
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:54 PM
 
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A few comparisons, so when you do make your move OP, you will not be so surprised.

1. Chicagoans tell it like it is....Sarasotans would rather tell a happy little lie to you, and then tell the truth to everyone else when you're not there.

2. Chicago crappy weather 80% of the time...Sarasota fantastic weather 95% of the time.

3. Chicago food... fabulous, (You will miss it). Sarasota food, meh...even the best restaurants like Michaels on East cannot stand up to hundreds of restaurants in Chicago.

4. In Chicago when someone makes an appointment for a service mechanic to be there at 10:00am, they will be. In Sarasota, your service mechanic will make the appointment for somewhere between 10am and 2pm. There's never a rush to get things done here.

5. You know if someone likes you in Chicago...In Sarasota, you will think everyone likes you, but you'll be wrong half the time.

6. Chicagoans know their neighbors pretty well...Sarasotans know they have neighbors.

7. Chicagoans walk daily out of necessity...Sarasotans walk for fitness. In other words, be prepared to drive everywhere.

Good luck on your move.
Heh, shoulda specified...we're southwest suburbs of Chicago. The car gets us everywhere...or at least to the Metra station. The thing with neighbors is that you don't know they're there from about mid October through mid April. I've NEVER seen a cable guy on time here either!

I will definitely miss the food, but NOT the calories! There isn't a thing you can eat here that isn't a heart attack on a plate! (Did some scouting, there's a Giordano's in Tampa. It's not Gino's East deep dish, but it's good for a fix ) I was born and raised in NY and CT, and the biggest thing I miss is the seafood. None of it here tastes remotely fresh, so every time I visit Sarasota, it's all fish all the time!

Thanks much for the info, are you from Chicagoland yourself?
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