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Old 11-15-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I remember a few years back, I planned a sunset picnic in SoCal to watch a Tarus launch out of Vandenburg. I wasn't expecting much, because that's a pretty small rocket, but, watching the hills to the north on that clear evening, sure enough; there it was, the plume glowing bright orange in the sun (even though we were in shadow). After a few seconds, the sustainer cut off and it disappeared, then the second stage started up and sprayed a "giant" conical rainbow plume across the sky. That was neat. The plume was pretty persistent, though the upper level winds blew it into strange glowing shapes after a few minutes.

Then the next day the headline "UFO OVER LA DISTURBS RESIDENTS" was in all the papers. Pretty funny. Real rockets are UFO's; aircraft are foreign missiles, what's next?

I don't get it. That was a slam dunk, publicly disclosed launch (I assume).

I didn't check but have any Delta IV heavies launched out of VAFB? Those might be the biggest thing ever launched from there; I think it would be close to 2 million pounds of thrust using three Rocketdyne RS-68 engines.


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Old 11-15-2010, 04:45 PM
 
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Have you ever seen a missle fired in person?

You'd realize it wasn't a missle if you had...

Try not to be paranoid and misinformed by the "media" would be my suggestion.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Have you ever seen a missle fired in person?

Who is "you"?
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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Not very many DIVH's have gone up in general, and I think all from the Cape. Hm... I think I ran out into my apartment complex's parking lot one night to watch an Atlas V (2SRM config) boosting out of VAFB. My neighbors were looking at me like I was crazy, staring off to the north. Then the rocket cleared the hills and they asked me if we were under attack.

Actually, there wouldn't be much to see from a Delta IV out of VAFB since it's LOX/LH2. No solids so no plume. It would probably be pretty hard to spot. That's pretty far from Ventura and LA. It'd be just a speck and easily mistaken for an aircraft unless you knew exactly what to look for or had binocs or a telescope. Once the solids cut off, I lost the Atlas. Not very impressive.

The papers noted that the Tarus plume was from a rocket launch, but the headlines were meant to be sensational and attention grabbing.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:22 PM
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Here's a pretty good article pointing to an airplane as the probable cause.

It was US Airways flight 808 | Time to Think
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