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Old 04-15-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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As for the other items on the list you provide, we are fortunate that we do not have any need, nor desire for them. I think that many people pay way, way too much for "entertainment". It boggles my mind how much money people throw away simply renting movies! And going to concerts and sporting events is outrageously expensive not to mention spending $60+ each month for satellite television.
I am guessing Redbox hasn't made it to Branson yet?
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Yes, and if we DOUBLED the population of earth, not only would it then take Texas to house the entire population of earth but then we might have to include Rhode Island.


i hope i'm not around when earths pop doubles. if the pop of earth gets that high most of earths resources will be gone.. we will see just how many sardines can live sustainable on this finite planet.. we will never reach 14 billion disease, global distaters, resource depletion, war, pollution, climate change, and to many variables to factor in will all come in to play.. actually it's all ready hapening.. what i would like to know is where is all the other life, meaning animals, nature, trees going to go as we greedy humans keep encroaching on their space.. ohh i forgot a lot of people think we humans can live without nature.???

actually if you want to get technical you can fit every human in a one cubic mile grave, should make a lot of fertilizer for nature

have you ever google earthed the good ol usa,, just take a look at how much farm land takes up most of the country, at the rate the mexican's are popping babies out we wont have much land to farm in the future.. just take a look a some census data the mexicans will have this country looking like mexico in the not so distant future. slum after slum,, after slum,

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Old 04-15-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... have you ever google earthed the good ol usa,, just take a look at how much farm land takes up most of the country,...
Sorry but that is not a true statement.

Farm land does not account for the majority of the square footage of the USA.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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most people cannot afford much of what they need or want.
Really? What do you need that you can't afford? Food? A roof over your head? Transportation?

What do you want that you can't afford? Entertainment? Jewelry? Toys?

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I'll grant that there are places in the world where people cannot afford basic necessities. However, indexes of global poverty have consistently fallen over the past decades, arguing against the case that scarcity is driving a greater percentage of the population into poverty. On the contrary, industry and growing populations are fueling greater prosperity. There is a limit, of course, but we have not reached it globally, and we certainly haven't reached it in the US.

Population growth is not sustainable long-term, but I am very skeptical about any claim that it is CURRENTLY driving up poverty rates.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I am guessing Redbox hasn't made it to Branson yet?
I couldn't tell you.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:34 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Sorry but that is not a true statement.

Farm land does not account for the majority of the square footage of the USA.
i should have said most of the arable land.. i don't count mountain ranges,and all out deserts.. lots of land in alaska, but you cant grow much
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Old 04-16-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Really? What do you need that you can't afford? Food? A roof over your head? Transportation?

What do you want that you can't afford? Entertainment? Jewelry? Toys?

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I'll grant that there are places in the world where people cannot afford basic necessities.
You answered your own question. I can afford all that I need, because of the accident of birth that guarantees me a million dollars during my lifetime as an American birthright. But most of the world's 7-billion cannot---yet. Which is, I think, the topic under discussion.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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i should have said most of the arable land.. i don't count mountain ranges,and all out deserts.. lots of land in alaska, but you cant grow much
Like oil, you go after what is easy first. Then you go after what is slightly harder.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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You answered your own question. I can afford all that I need, because of the accident of birth that guarantees me a million dollars during my lifetime as an American birthright. But most of the world's 7-billion cannot---yet. Which is, I think, the topic under discussion.
Okay, if we're using global poverty to measure whether the world is overpopulated, then the numbers say no. Using the assumption that an overpopulated world would see consistent increases in the % of people below the poverty line as the population increased, we can see that the opposite is actually true as there are diminishing %'s of people below the poverty line since 1990 for all regions of the globe.

Region 1990 2002 2004
East Asia and Pacific 15.40% 12.33% 9.07%
Europe and Central Asia 3.60% 1.28% 0.95%
Latin America and the Caribbean 9.62% 9.08% 8.64%
Middle East and North Africa 2.08% 1.69% 1.47%
South Asia 35.04% 33.44% 30.84%
Sub-Saharan Africa 46.07% 42.63% 41.09%

Poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Okay, if we're using global poverty to measure whether the world is overpopulated, then the numbers say no. Using the assumption that an overpopulated world would see consistent increases in the % of people below the poverty line as the population increased, we can see that the opposite is actually true as there are diminishing %'s of people below the poverty line since 1990 for all regions of the globe.

Region 1990 2002 2004
East Asia and Pacific 15.40% 12.33% 9.07%
Europe and Central Asia 3.60% 1.28% 0.95%
Latin America and the Caribbean 9.62% 9.08% 8.64%
Middle East and North Africa 2.08% 1.69% 1.47%
South Asia 35.04% 33.44% 30.84%
Sub-Saharan Africa 46.07% 42.63% 41.09%

Poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You're right, and that is a legitimate metric. The world's capacity to feed people is growing faster than the population.
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