I think that a zombie apocalypse is possible??? (signals, support, comparison)

[infiri]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Ok, whatever you say. A dirty bomb is a whole different thing, all forms of warfare have their place.

Oh yeah, here is a little read ditty on Hybrid Chemicals:

http://www.pslc.ws/~ksorrells/WebPage/sonoma/lichtenhan.pdf (http://www.pslc.ws/%7Eksorrells/WebPage/sonoma/lichtenhan.pdf - broken link)

There is no such thing has hybrid chemicals, this is only evidence of your knowledge of the subject...
Your webpage is from a company called hybrid plastic...

Also, brain damage doesnt mean violence.
Is like saying chicken is a bird, so all birds are chicken.
Very small amount of brain damage patient are violent not the other way around.

[broadbill]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Village people huh, nice try. You see, when you want to make my sane ideas look crazy.........well, you make up something really crazy sounding and insert it into the argument.

Wait, so drugging people into a zombie-like state is perfectly plausible for you, but drugging them so that they sing/dance (like the village people for example) isn't? Where are you drawing the line?

To me, both are equally crazy and therefore equally possible.

Originally Posted by tickyul

The feller in the video was an example of what a chemically induced zombie could resemble. I used the gentleman in the video as an example of someone with possible brain damage....hyper-violent and low IQ.

THE EVIDENCE I put forward was basic science. I pointed out that sometimes when a person suffers brain damage they can become
hyper-violent and have their IQ lowered a lot, just like the feller in the video. I further posited that it is very possible to make a chemical that WOULD CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE..........WHICH COULD CAUSE ONE TO ACT LIKE THE FELLER, (PROBABLY A LOT WORSE) IN THE VIDEO, AKA A MODERN ZOMBIE.

Yeah, I get what you are saying and I'm not having a problem comprehending you. I just don't buy it! What else ya got?

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by Joke Insurance

I doubt you do either

Yeah, but I keep an open mind. Some of the greatest inventions came about with a inventor who had visions that no one else could fathom. Leonardo Da Vinci was a man ahead of his times, lots thought he was nuts:

The Inventions of Leonardo DaVinci

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by infiri

There is no such thing has hybrid chemicals, this is only evidence of your knowledge of the subject...
Your webpage is from a company called hybrid plastic...

Also, brain damage doesnt mean violence.
Is like saying chicken is a bird, so all birds are chicken.
Very small amount of brain damage patient are violent not the other way around.

Uh, did you even look at the page??? I don't expect you to digest the whole website, just read a little. And what do you think plastics are.......cheese wiz??? MANY innovations in plastics have required manipulation of the CHEMICAL STRUCTURE of plastics........HYBRID CHEMICALS.


You keep changing what I have said to make your case......nice try. I NEVER SAID that people with brain damage are ALWAYS VIOLENT. I said that it does happen.

I posited that a chemical weapon could be designed to cause damage that would make the person hyper-violent and dumb...............get it?????????

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by broadbill

Wait, so drugging people into a zombie-like state is perfectly plausible for you, but drugging them so that they sing/dance (like the village people for example) isn't? Where are you drawing the line?

To me, both are equally crazy and therefore equally possible.



Yeah, I get what you are saying and I'm not having a problem comprehending you. I just don't buy it! What else ya got?

I guess that I am making my posts in Esperanto, sorry about that!!!!


Drugging.........huh??? The effects of this Chemical Weapon would be from the damage/changes to the CNS, they would not wear off:

PharmAthene | Chemical Defense


Nerve agents function by binding to acetylcholinesterase, an enzyme that normally causes termination of the activity of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Nerve agents block the activity of acetylcholinesterase, allowing the activity of acetylcholine to continue unchecked. As a result, nerve impulses are continually transmitted, causing muscle contractions that do not stop. This effect is referred to as a “cholinergic crisis” and results in a loss of muscle control, respiratory failure, paralysis and convulsions. Nerve agent exposure that does not cause death after a short period can lead to permanent brain damage.

[Joke Insurance]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Yeah, but I keep an open mind. Some of the greatest inventions came about with a inventor who had visions that no one else could fathom. Leonardo Da Vinci was a man ahead of his times, lots thought he was nuts:

The Inventions of Leonardo DaVinci

Leonardo Da Vinci has nothing to do with Zombies. Next.

[broadbill]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Drugging.........huh??? The effects of this Chemical Weapon would be from the damage/changes to the CNS, they would not wear off:

yes drugs. Chemical weapons are drugs. For example, mustard gas (a chemical weapon used during WWI/WWII) was one of the first drug used to treat cancer (chemotherapy)

A "chemical" in this instance would be a drug that somehow kills/incapacitates a person...thus making it a weapon.

Originally Posted by tickyul

PharmAthene | Chemical Defense


Nerve agents function by binding to acetylcholinesterase, an enzyme that normally causes termination of the activity of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Nerve agents block the activity of acetylcholinesterase, allowing the activity of acetylcholine to continue unchecked. As a result, nerve impulses are continually transmitted, causing muscle contractions that do not stop. This effect is referred to as a “cholinergic crisis” and results in a loss of muscle control, respiratory failure, paralysis and convulsions. Nerve agent exposure that does not cause death after a short period can lead to permanent brain damage.

LOL.....yes, this would certainly damage the CNS! Not that this would be a big issue, since you'd also probably die in the process!

Again, what is your point? How does this relate to zombies?


By the way: you never answered me where you draw the line between how a drug/chemical warfare/whatever-you-call-it that turns people into zombies is totally plausibe, yet one that makes people sing/dance isn't at all plausible....

[infiri]

Originally Posted by tickyul

Uh, did you even look at the page??? I don't expect you to digest the whole website, just read a little. And what do you think plastics are.......cheese wiz??? MANY innovations in plastics have required manipulation of the CHEMICAL STRUCTURE of plastics........HYBRID CHEMICALS.


You keep changing what I have said to make your case......nice try. I NEVER SAID that people with brain damage are ALWAYS VIOLENT. I said that it does happen.

I posited that a chemical weapon could be designed to cause damage that would make the person hyper-violent and dumb...............get it?????????

Yes I did look at the page, and actually read it, again hybrid chemicals are not a chemical name for any type of chemicals. hybrid is not used, look it up on a text book and tell if you can find it.
In the whole page that you post it talks about hybrid in the title and not in the text. There is no such thing as hybrid chemicals, is not a chemistry term.
Everything is chemistry, plastic, water, proteins, carbs, glass, metal, etc.
Everything is the universe is chemistry, chemistry is the study of the chemical reactions, this means almost everything, since almost everything is a chemical reaction. Put water and salt together and you have a chemical reaction (breaking the ionic bond).
but there is no such thing as a hybrid water.

by the way you respond and try to debate is clear that you dont know much about biology and chemistry.

What you are trying to get to is something that is not really real. Target medicine.
Do you know why medication has side effects? this is because medication affects almost if not all organs. This is because medication can be specific to a receptor but not to a particular cell in the body, every cell with this receptor will be affected.
For example, aspirin affects your blood and your brain, it works for pain, and it works as a blood thinner.
Viagra, not only works on the target area, but all blood vessels in the body.
There is not such medicine or chemical that only targets one particular cell. This is the main reason that chemotherapy is so bad for you, because it doesnt only kill the cancer cells but it also kills all other cells in your body. So there is no real target medicine (unless you inject the medicine directly to the target organ).
Then you have the brain, that you only want to target not only to the brain, but specific part of the brain, like behavior and limbic system of the brain, but not affect all other, like motor skills.
There is no medication that only affects just a part of the brain, it affects the whole brains, and most of the whole body also. So if you have a chemical that damages the brain, it will create a vegetable, and not a zombie. Unless, you inject the drug directly to the specific area of the brain that you want to destroy or manipulate.

target medicine, is an illusion, and currently out of our technology.
And if the technology was there, we would have plenty of medicine like chemotherapy (a billion dollar market), creating target medication.

[Java378]

You guys know tickyul is certifiably insane, right?

[tickyul]

Originally Posted by Joke Insurance

Leonardo Da Vinci has nothing to do with Zombies. Next.

No, but the point I was TRYING to make is that he was an advanced, futuristic thinker..........similar to many people who invent things.........such as Advanced Chemical Weapons AKA Chemical Psychosurgery.