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Old 07-16-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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I think transhumanism is the future. Joe rogans take on it is really cool, that we as humans are going towards transhumanism as a natural evolution that we are doing subconsciously.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I didn't say it did nothing, I said it hasn't done anything revolutionary or game changing in my opinion. Where are the cancer cures, the genetic disorder cures, youth extending therapies. I know the mapping of 2003 is getting us there slowly, and that was my point in mentioning it and comparing it to the blue Brain project, that science takes time.
They're finding cancer goes a a bit deeper than genetics at the molecular level. Its on the right path though.
Its a sign post, but signposts aren't the destination.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I can see where it can look that way. Then again my life today with my smart phone, virtural reality, partially driverles suv, 3d tv and movies etc makes my life a science fixtion movie when I was in high school in the late 80's. So wait 13 years "you ain't seen nothing yet"!
Tech advance is being confused with advances in understanding consciousness, they're worlds apart.
Technology races ahead unabated, some of the apps for smartphones are astonishingly good.

But delving into consciousness has been a slog, they haven't solved much beyond proving what mind isn't.
It isn't emergent.

Physicalists claim it is emergent but if you inquire what the threshold is, they have no answer.

"the problem with materialism is it tries to construct the mind out of properties that refuse to add up to mentality" Colin McGuin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5TNrtu9Pk
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:19 AM
 
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Tech advance is being confused with advances in understanding consciousness, they're worlds apart.
Technology races ahead unabated, some of the apps for smartphones are astonishingly good.

But delving into consciousness has been a slog, they haven't solved much beyond proving what mind isn't.
It isn't emergent.

Physicalists claim it is emergent but if you inquire what the threshold is, they have no answer.

"the problem with materialism is it tries to construct the mind out of properties that refuse to add up to mentality" Colin McGuin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB5TNrtu9Pk
So this is a christian (video) view on science, and it starts with 'scientists have nothing to back up the claim that there is nothing more in the brain than chemical signals and matter'.

Also, from the video: 'scientists can't pinpoint the moment when consciousnesses emerges, thus it cannot "emerge" '.

Wow, this isn't how science works.

Last but not least, no one have ever proved the existence of a "soul" either.
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:27 AM
 
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A happy note from our friends the bio gerontologists over at the SENS foundation & Fight Aging! Where are we now?.

BTW: the first aging reversal drug will start human trials this year. From the web page:
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There has been a huge level of interest in senescent cell removal therapies in the last year or two, and a number of companies are currently developing senolytics. Unity Biotechnology is taking the first generation of senolytics into human clinical trials this year, after being successfully funded by Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and a number of other big investors.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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In 1985, we thought Einstein's brain was not much different from anyone else's, but we were wrong.
https://www.inc.com/amp/170521.html


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Astrocytes nurture synapses. Not only are they key in synaptic plasticity, but they are plastic themselves. They grow and change. One astrocyte can be in contact with two million synapses, coordinating their activity and plasticity across vast realms of the human brain - and contributing to our intelligence.
How do astrocytes figure in artificial intelligence?
Artificial intelligence researchers from a university in Spain recently improved neural network performance by using an algorithm that included artificial astrocytes.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Found an online article, dated 2014-"Homni: The New Superorganism Taking Over Earth by Gaia Vince.

A superorganism, or metorganism, is when individuals actually function as parts of a collect whole. Social insects are example: bee hives, ant colonies, termites.... Vince believes that humanity has become the basis for a global super organism.

Which reminds me of a book dated 1993-"Metaman: The Merging of Humans and Machines into a Global Superorganism" by Gregory Stock.

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Old 08-09-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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The technological singularity and the definition of consciousness are two separate but important topics. Even if we do not understand the nature of consciousness by 2030 we will have the ability to merge with the technology causing us to be transhuman aka cyborg and that will cause society to move faster then ever before causing all the models to break down or the technological singularity.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:00 AM
 
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No, I don't believe that we will form a super organism like an ant colony or a bee hive.

I think that the prefix "meta"-which may be used in reference to a higher abstraction-might be appropriate if we form a collective intelligence with AI.

A meta civilization-in one sense a complex of humans, AI, (dumb) artifacts, crops, and domesticated animals.
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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Aaaand some uplifting news! The first practical means of human rejuvenation are not distant
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