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Old 06-07-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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The problem with estimates and predictions like that, they didnt consider if that technology would ever be made accessible to the general public at any time though. This could have a HUGE impact on when or if it ever happens.

The same thing applies to many other past technology predictions, like hovering cars, past generations assumed future generations would have all sorts of sci-fi like technology, but they never stopped to consider if the powers that be, would ever allow the public access to it,or even to know it exists!
This is when it will be available to the public. Also you can only predict information technology and flying cars is not a form of information technology so while we can give a good estimate when the singularity will hit us we have no idea when we will get flying cars.
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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... but they never stopped to consider if the powers that be, would ever allow the public access to it,or even to know it exists!
Weeeell, that's a big conspiracy theory IMO and as researchers all work more or less together nowadays, everything is out in the air. Today's problem seems to be the reverse, inflating the slightest finding into some super innovation.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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Weeeell, that's a big conspiracy theory IMO and as researchers all work more or less together nowadays, everything is out in the air. Today's problem seems to be the reverse, inflating the slightest finding into some super innovation.
Thats not a conspiracy theory at all.

They created the 'Invention Secrecy Act' in 1951, this is designed to target and suppress certain technology. You dont have to take my word for it either, plenty of online sites describe why this was created and how its used, and why its still in force today.

There are a few conditions the new invention or technology must meet before being suppressed of course, one of them is if the technology negatively effects Govts ability to exert its authority, another one factors the impact on large existing industry and the overall economy if that industry suddenly became obsolete...

Example...lets say some guy figures out a way for cars to run on tap water with a few cheap additives or modifications...naturally that would be disastrous for the oil and gas industry, and would have dire results on the economy afterwards, it would be best to suppress this technology.

Btw, you can look thru lists of things they have suppressed with this act over the years thanks to FOIA documents, many of the inventions and technology relate to energy and vehicles.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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but wait 5 to 10 years and AI will be just as intelligent as we are. .
You posted this as little more than six years ago. How are we doing so far? AI Monopoly on Pogo set on Tycoon still can't beat me more than once out of ten.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Shreveport, LA
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Who else is still watching this thread after watching it 6 years?
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Who else is still watching this thread after watching it 6 years?

The interesting thing is technologies that we have today (virtual reality and driverless cars) that are out today, I have both of them (level 3 driverless), were more science fiction when this thread started and some even said it would not decades off before we got it... Something to think about.

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You posted this as little more than six years ago. How are we doing so far? AI Monopoly on Pogo set on Tycoon still can't beat me more than once out of ten.
I have to go back and see what I mean by that quote as I have heard we will have human level AI by 2029 and Ray Kurzwewil has always said that.

I did see this in the news:

A.I. could spur global growth as much as the steam engine did, study shows

Artificial intelligence could contribute an additional 1.2 percent to annual GDP growth for at least the next decade, according to McKinsey Global Institute.

The institute's model expects about 70 percent of companies will adopt at least one form of AI by 2030, and that a significant portion of large firms will use a full range of the technology.

The McKinsey analysis found that countries that establish themselves as AI leaders — mostly developed economies— could capture 20 to 25 percent more in economic benefits compared to current levels.

The link: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/arti...udy-shows.html

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Old 09-14-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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A good video on what is coming in the next few decades.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTTgdtl8FvM
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I don’t think we have any idea what’s coming. I remember the cover of a old science fiction novel. It was a depiction of an astronaut during a space walk outside his craft set in the distant future. The craft, his suit, most of it looked pretty much on target, even today, with one glaring exception. Dangling from his “utility belt” was a slide rule. The concept of heads up displays, voice commands, all the radiation hardened digital electronics that could be integrated right into a helmet, was apparently unimaginable even to the science fiction crowd.

I hope I live to see the next revolution. The digital age was one, molecular biology was another. I think the next one will be machine intelligence and I think it will be as alien as any extraterrestrial visitor.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Giving this a little bump for an article I just read (link below). It’s already happening that we are working for machines in a not so obvious way. Intelligent bots, having learned from other bots successful trading methods practically run the stock market now. Bots write music indistinguishable from human compositions. They do discovery in law firms, write articles for newspapers and sports magazines, generate reports, etc. we humans use all this machine information product to conduct our lives and business. Many of us already work for A.I.s. Here’s a more obvious case of an A.I. telling people what to do.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/busin...thm#gs.FANTrRs
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