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Old 10-25-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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The Good Old Boy network is alive and well in the U.S.
It's not an exclusively US phenomenon, believe me.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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30% of my IT department is female. It's only ten people here, but that's still I think rather good for an industry which isn't "female friendly."
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Why does it matter if a person in the tech field is a man or a woman? Fill the available positions with the best available heads.


It is still true in our society that girls and young women are less likely to challenge themselves to be conversant with tech principles. Not many women repair their own car or do routine household maintenance. Not many women have a tool box. Honey does all that for them. Not many girls feel comfortable assuming the social reputation of being a nerd in scientific fields. They still gravitate to and dominate hair dressers, nurses and stewardesses, and after middle school, it is probably too late to change their major..

I had an appointment last week at the office of a team of surgeons, and all seven of them were men. My cardiologist is a member of a four man team. I don't want my cardiologist or surgeon replaced by someone else simply because there are too many men in the field. I want the best specialist who has spent his whole life on the kind of track that naturally leans toward that particular skill set.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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Why does it matter if a person in the tech field is a man or a woman? Fill the available positions with the best available heads.


It is still true in our society that girls and young women are less likely to challenge themselves to be conversant with tech principles. Not many women repair their own car or do routine household maintenance. Not many women have a tool box. Honey does all that for them. Not many girls feel comfortable assuming the social reputation of being a nerd in scientific fields. They still gravitate to and dominate hair dressers, nurses and stewardesses, and after middle school, it is probably too late to change their major..

I had an appointment last week at the office of a team of surgeons, and all seven of them were men. My cardiologist is a member of a four man team. I don't want my cardiologist or surgeon replaced by someone else simply because there are too many men in the field. I want the best specialist who has spent his whole life on the kind of track that naturally leans toward that particular skill set.
"Naturally leans toward that particular skill set?" We have institutionalized sexism in the country. Women aren't "naturally" drawn to hairdressing, we societally push them towards these kinds of careers, just as we shun them from the men's clubs.
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:11 PM
 
Location: NC
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Plenty of women today are interested in technological/science fields. If women received equal pay as men doing the same job, they would be more inclined to stay. But they are not (generally 78% of pay for same job).

Unfortunately, it will also take 20 or 30 more years before women scientists are promoted to the upper levels of industry. Women PhD's are often pigeon-holed as being either good scientists or good managers, but usually are not rewarded or offered opportunities for doing both. But this will change, it only takes time.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Plenty of women today are interested in technological/science fields. .
If "plenty of women" were interested in technological/science fields, "plenty of women" would be working professionally in the technological/science fields. Nobody is stopping them but themselves. There are more female than male undergraduates in American colleges and universities (57% women). If they don't go into science/tech fields, that's not somebody else's fault.

Go to an auto parts store, and see how many women walk up the counter to buy what they need to satisfy their burning desire to work on their own cars, expressing this deep-seated "natural" inclination to do technological things. How come the OP doesn't think more women are needed in muffler shops?
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