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Old 12-08-2012, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Athens, Greece
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The funny theory Out-of-Africa is falling apart; yet Chris Stringer, one of the leading proponents of the theory (who is currently rethinking his theory), insists on the melanin excuse for the supposed transformation of the black Africans, who left South Africa 70,000 years ago, into blonde, blue-eyed Scandinavians.

We can see that skin colour generally has a relationship with ultraviolet light, with getting a balance between having enough UV getting into your skin to produce Vitamin D, but not too much of it that it will damage the skin or destroy folic acid.

Is nature that silly as to continue adding melanin on top of melanin until the skin became pitch black shielding off all UV radiation and at the same time absorbing all the visible radiation and thus overheating the organism? (the material that absorbs the most light gains the most energy and heats up more).

The so-called “Homo sapiens sapiens” left Africa (most probably South Africa) and 30,000 years later reached Northern Europe. These people, the people who arrived in Europe, were white, belonging to the Caucasian group of the White race, yet for the last 20 years they are thought by the scientific community (not even the multiregionalists dared to argue differently) as blacks who turned white!!

They were obviously white on starting from Africa and that explains their annihilating of the race of the Neanderthals, both in the Near East and Europe, as white people do have an history of extreme racism and genocide committing.

P.S. Not to forget that the initial genocide was committed by the gods and that the gods were reported as belonging to the white race.

 
Old 12-08-2012, 01:43 AM
 
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Were the white people black 70,000 years ago?
Am I off the mark in thinking there's a fundamental contradiction in the question?
 
Old 12-08-2012, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Athens, Greece
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Am I off the mark in thinking there's a fundamental contradiction in the question?
No you are not!
The contradiction is inherent in the Out-of-Africa theory as it claims that the white people are blacks in disguise.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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Ummmmm


What?
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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Am I off the mark in thinking there's a fundamental contradiction in the question?
You are because the body of equatorial modern humans have other physiological adaptations to regulate heat that non-equatorial modern humans do not. Longer limbs to torso ratios, almost complete absence of body hair, difference in how sweat glands function and even how oxygen is processed. Trying to isolate a single body function without evaluating the symbiosis between other organs and functions will lead you to making statements like, "the funny theory Out-of-Africa is falling apart." Which by the way, if you are referring to modern humans it is most definitely not.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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The contradiction is inherent in the Out-of-Africa theory as it claims that the white people are blacks in disguise.
I suppose ignorance can be bliss, but even that was beyond silly. White people, like black people are both the same modern humans, with the same genetic make up whose difference are solely due to the response of those genes to different environmental stimuli.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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If I understand it correctly, you can take a group of pale white Swedes and move them to the heart of Africa and their descendants will end up with dark skin after so many generations - without mixing with the locals. The opposite will work as well (move native Africans to northern Europe and they'll end up pale white).

How many generations does it take for this effect to kick in?
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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The funny theory Out-of-Africa is falling apart; yet Chris Stringer, one of the leading proponents of the theory (who is currently rethinking his theory), insists on the melanin excuse for the supposed transformation of the black Africans, who left South Africa 70,000 years ago, into blonde, blue-eyed Scandinavians.
Have you even factored in the possibility that maybe Africans during that early time period in human history might not have been as dark skinned as they are today? Maybe the dark skin complexion that most Africans have today came after the people who already went out of Africa to settle in the different continents.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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Have you even factored in the possibility that maybe Africans during that early time period in human history might not have been as dark skinned as they are today? Maybe the dark skin complexion that most Africans have today came after people who already went out of Africa to settle in the different continents.
Actually the genetic evidence is pretty conclusive on this issue dark skin is a common trait possessed by the earliest humans to diverge from humans in the middle east and came to live along the coast of the Indian sub continent and then on to Australia and other south Pacific island where they lived in genetic isolation of the tens of thousands of year.. By the way, in a research paper written by a group of researchers at the Copenhagen University and published in the Journal of Human Genetics, all the blond eyed and blue haired humans alive today arose from a single person some 10,000 years ago.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Actually the genetic evidence is pretty conclusive on this issue dark skin is a common trait possessed by the earliest humans to diverge from humans in the middle east and came to live along the coast of the Indian sub continent and then on to Australia and other south Pacific island where they lived in genetic isolation of the tens of thousands of year.. By the way, in a research paper written by a group of researchers at the Copenhagen University and published in the Journal of Human Genetics, all the blond eyed and blue haired humans alive today arose from a single person some 10,000 years ago.
Good point. I forgot about the aboriginal people in Oceania and their genetic isolation over a long period of time.

To me it seems like the OP might have a problem accepting the possibility that his ancestor were originally African.
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