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Old 04-04-2014, 01:30 PM
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Is Science and Technology stagnating?
Not yet, give it another few generations, and in the U.S. this will be true. We are graduating an amazing number of scientifically and mathematically illiterate people in the states.
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:49 PM
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rich man like Steve Jobs and man like Patrick Swayze that leaves you in shock how primitive the health care is.
If you read the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Jacobsen, Steve Jobs himself admitted that his stubborn insistence on treating his cancer with natural methods in the first few months after diagnosis, rather than the more aggressive treatment recommended by his doctors, led to his disease becoming incurable. The medical professionals interviewed by the author all said that he would have lived longer with more conventional treatment. Steve Jobs thought he was smarter than his doctors. Alas, he wasn't.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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Not yet, give it another few generations, and in the U.S. this will be true. We are graduating an amazing number of scientifically and mathematically illiterate people in the states.
And isn't this well reflected in the subtopics of this forum? Cell phones, computers, consumer electronics, internet, space, tablets. One hard science and six inter-related electronics technologies. That says it all. Where people can get hands on and become part of a science, it gets attention. Technology from the science of electronics but I'll wager that 99.9% of us do not understand one iota of the "why" it works. We just know it does and thank goodness.

Interesting connection between your comment, Zot, and those sub-topics. Don't you agree? Nothing wrong with them, of course. Just that it shows how we can get involved when the results involve us. Other than people on the west coast - and perhaps a few in the New Madrid area - how many know or care about plate tectonics - if they even know the term? Education and personal involvement are the keys. Hands on.

So, if we can find a way and time to teach more science, it will be learned and more progress will be made - although I disagree that there has been no progress/improvement. How did we get from the idiot box that only let us stare to the computer that let us do hands on?
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Not yet, give it another few generations, and in the U.S. this will be true. We are graduating an amazing number of scientifically and mathematically illiterate people in the states.
In the next 15 years we will merge with computers then we will be able to read and understand the entire knowledge of the human race in a few minutes. Imagine the impact that will have on society. That is why long term projections like the one you just made are simply wrong.
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:25 AM
 
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In the next 15 years we will merge with computers then we will be able to read and understand the entire knowledge of the human race in a few minutes. Imagine the impact that will have on society. That is why long term projections like the one you just made are simply wrong.
Imagine not having the freedom to think for oneself.
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:35 AM
 
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I don't think it's stagnating, but I don't think it's accelerating like commonly believed either. I think there is steady progress being made.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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I don't think it's stagnating, but I don't think it's accelerating like commonly believed either. I think there is steady progress being made.
Two things to look up:

Moore's law and the law of accelerating returns.


So not only is technology advancing faster but that rate is, also, going faster.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Imagine not having the freedom to think for oneself.
Or imagine having more freedom. Technology is the ultimate equalizer and not in a negative sense but a positive one.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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Stagnation?? Even with the internet it would take me every waking moment to keep up with the latest invention, computational technology to say nothing of breakthroughs in bio-mechanical and genetic research.

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Old 04-10-2014, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Stagnation?? Even with the internet it would take me every waking moment to keep up with the lasted invention, computational technology to say nothing of breakthroughs in bio-mechanical and genetic research.
Once we merge with the technology that will not be a problem.

Listen to the trailer for a move as it is exactly what will happen by 2030. Moore's law guarantees it.

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