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Old 05-05-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Agreed. I mean imagine what the impact will be when we can read and understand the entire knowledge of the human race in a few minutes? We will be just as smart as any AI and that is what Hawkings does not take into account.
I don't think many people will want to transform themselves to that extent .......

.......... not unless there is a perpetual mood elevator and the capacity for artificial orgasms at will.
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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will Al be so smart that it can dig up all the information on its own?

Thats the danger.When the artificial intelligence starts thinking for itself it will be only a matter of time before the AI starts questioning the need or relevance of the humans and perhaps think it would be better to rid the world of these pesky humans so it can go on to fulfill its own reason for being unimpeded.

I think some serious study should be undertaken on the issue..
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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The more I think about it, the less I like it. Imagine missing all the fun of learning - questioning, investigating, testing, discovering, surprises on every page and new knowledge at the end of the journey. Have you ever seen the radiant smile on a child's face when he finally gets it? Do you ever have that feeling yourself even years later? I'd hate to lose that. Maybe we can't stop it but that's a pity. There will be no use for humans unless we become the servants of Al. We can just stay dumb and let Al tell us which broom to use on which floor. NO!!!!
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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we are a lot farther from hardware upgrades to our wetware than a mere 16 years.

I'd be surprised to see any real movement in that arena in even 100 years. There is simply too much we do not know about the human brain.

Even AI is nowhere near the "transcendence" point. I'm sorry, but self-driving cars are a far cry from actual intelligence. We can't even emulate so much as a pigeon yet, let alone an evil genius that wants to take over the world.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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we are a lot farther from hardware upgrades to our wetware than a mere 16 years.

I'd be surprised to see any real movement in that arena in even 100 years. There is simply too much we do not know about the human brain.

Even AI is nowhere near the "transcendence" point. I'm sorry, but self-driving cars are a far cry from actual intelligence. We can't even emulate so much as a pigeon yet, let alone an evil genius that wants to take over the world.
And thank goodness for that. Yes?
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:41 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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we are a lot farther from hardware upgrades to our wetware than a mere 16 years.

I'd be surprised to see any real movement in that arena in even 100 years. There is simply too much we do not know about the human brain.

Even AI is nowhere near the "transcendence" point. I'm sorry, but self-driving cars are a far cry from actual intelligence. We can't even emulate so much as a pigeon yet, let alone an evil genius that wants to take over the world.
Maybe if technology only advances in a straight line - but as Josseppie has so often reminded us, it is currently accelerating.

But that depends on the world situation to continue ...... it may be that soon all science and technology will be mainly funded for military and police applications. Or there might be a worldwide depression, a deep one, which will close the purse strings for research.
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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The more I think about it, the less I like it. Imagine missing all the fun of learning - questioning, investigating, testing, discovering, surprises on every page and new knowledge at the end of the journey. Have you ever seen the radiant smile on a child's face when he finally gets it? Do you ever have that feeling yourself even years later? I'd hate to lose that. Maybe we can't stop it but that's a pity. There will be no use for humans unless we become the servants of Al. We can just stay dumb and let Al tell us which broom to use on which floor. NO!!!!
The thing is we will merge with the technology and still learn. It will just be a pace much faster then ever before in the history of civilization.
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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we are a lot farther from hardware upgrades to our wetware than a mere 16 years.

I'd be surprised to see any real movement in that arena in even 100 years. There is simply too much we do not know about the human brain.

Even AI is nowhere near the "transcendence" point. I'm sorry, but self-driving cars are a far cry from actual intelligence. We can't even emulate so much as a pigeon yet, let alone an evil genius that wants to take over the world.
The thing is information technology advances exponentially so that is why we will see AI smarter then the unaided human by 2030 and also why we will merge with the technology by then too to keep up with it. In fact I have already seen the beginning of it now and it's only 2014.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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The thing is we will merge with the technology and still learn. It will just be a pace much faster then ever before in the history of civilization.
So which is it? Merging with technology? Or merging with AI technology?
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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So which is it? Merging with technology? Or merging with AI technology?
Merging with technology. That will allow us to keep up with AI once it becomes more intelligent then the unaided human. Honestly I think post 2030 that will be just as important if not more so then a college degree today.
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