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Old 11-26-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Ak-Rowdy, OH
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Let's consider the leading theories of our age:

30 billion planets in our galaxy alone.
200 billions galaxies in our Universe.
The number of Universes out there could be infinite.
universe expends and contracts.

Chances are there other humanoid societies out there. Chances are that that we can even find life that is very similar to ours.
People also neglect to note the when of when other intelligent beings could have been in existence. Not only do you have all of those factors above, we have had billions of years for those types of civilizations to have arisen (and disappeared.)
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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I'm pretty certain that if they observed us first, they wouldn't bother trying to communicate. If they can reach us with relative easy then they're in a position where interacting with us would be completely useless.
If there are many populated worlds out there, they would designate us a zoo and look at us through the 6th dimensional portal or something, if there are few worlds out there and we are the first one they have encountered in a while, T think they would try to communicate eventually.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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This logic is completely flawed. Without knowing the probability of an event, you can't say anything about chances. It's like saying "there are 7 billion people on Earth. Chances are, at least one of them is 50 feet tall." See?
Above I have pained a picture of infinite number of planets out there.

Mathematically an infinity is rounded up 1. Infinity in math is 0.99999999999... which is rounded to 1.

So here are your odds 1 populated world or occurrence of an event / 1 infinity, as in infinite number of repetitions = 1 or 100% chance

But this is in simple terms. It gets more complex from here.

We believe that Universe contracts and expends and there are many universes out there.
Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation


So time is only linear as we measure it here on earth. Which asks a question: Have we existed before ? Do we exist in the past/present and future simultaneously ? I mean, what is stopping us from existing in multiple universes simultaneously ?




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Old 11-26-2014, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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My theory is that we humans were put on this earth as someone's little experiment, kinda like an ant farm. Every so often they come back and check to see how we are doing. Bet they are damned disappointed at how things have turned out !

So, yes, I think it would be very unlikely that, in this whole wide universe, we were the only planet chosen to have some form of life.

Don
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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...Mathematically an infinity is rounded up 1. Infinity in math is 0.99999999999... which is rounded to 1...
I do hope you're trying to be funny.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:48 PM
 
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I do hope you're trying to be funny.
You have a dice and you don't know the number of sides. You throw this dice infinite number of times, what is your chance of ever hitting that same side again ? 100%
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Old 11-27-2014, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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You have a dice and you don't know the number of sides. You throw this dice infinite number of times, what is your chance of ever hitting that same side again ? 100%
LOL - what if the dice have an infinite number of sides? You can't support flawed logic with flawed examples.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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LOL - what if the dice have an infinite number of sides? You can't support flawed logic with flawed examples.
I get paid allot of money for my logic, don't think it's flawed.

To explain mathematics is simpler terms (assuming algebra is simpler then statistics to you):

Given what we know about our planet, what chance is there that you exist and reading this thread ?
We sum all the chances up, from every chance you took in your life to all the chances from your parents all the way to the dinosaurs and beyond.

So let's say that your existence is represented by 1/infinity. (sum of all the evens that had to happen for you to exist today).

Now there is infinite number of planets out-there in the pulsating Universes where even time is not linear. So the dice is being thrown infinite number of times.

The chase of you existing again is 1/infinity (which is the chance of you existing the first time) / by infinite numbers of repetitions. 1/y/y where y is infinity.

But, We know that you exist, so we can say that 1/y=1 or 100% chance of you existing the first time, there for y=1.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Here is something that I can get into trouble with the moderators:

Spoiler

Infinity, countable or or not, it never really is zero and it never is one. It approaches one or it approaches zero, but it's never one whole. Because only G-d is One. as in One WHOLE. So if take all the physical world and it together, then we take the metaphysical and add that, take it to the power of none-linear time, we can approach the ONE whole, but G-d also has a SOUL, there for it's never a whole without G-d's SOUL.

Happy thanks giving and G-d bless

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Old 11-28-2014, 04:26 AM
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One of the things that can get you in trouble with the mods is hijacking threads and being off topic Remember to focus on the actual topic of the thread, not on, for example, statistical models (start a separate thread for that )or god (go to the religion forums to discuss god).
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