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Old 11-26-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Wait 5-10 years and you will see I am right.
Sort of reminds me of my family (and some friends) between 1994 and 1997. Bah, that 'internet' (said with a derisive tone) isn't going to change anything, it's just the newest fad that will fade away, and it's not really good for anything. Bah.

I was right, the internet did catch on and is useful and popular.
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Sort of reminds me of my family (and some friends) between 1994 and 1997. Bah, that 'internet' (said with a derisive tone) isn't going to change anything, it's just the newest fad that will fade away, and it's not really good for anything. Bah.

I was right, the internet did catch on and is useful and popular.
Same thing with the television. Back when it first came out people said it was just a fad.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:18 PM
 
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VR hasn't taken off because there has been no worthwhile content for the devices. Content is king.

The Oculus project has the best chance since there's a lot of heavy hitters working on it.

However, Glass had all the world's top wearable guys working on it and it's not going anywhere, so who knows.

Both Glass and VR systems share the problem that most people don't want to wear anything like glasses or goggles if they don't have to.

VR has a better chance of taking off if someone invents a "holodeck." Supposedly Magic Leap is doing something like this, but the insiders I know told me it's going to be a flop.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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I agree that content is what really matters. We're working on it. (in the meantime, even existing content adapted to VR can be startling)

The headset practically disappears, and that's the DK2 where comfort was the least of their concerns. I kind of stop thinking about the fact I am wearing something. My eyes and ears receive input that corresponds directly to the six degrees of freedom of my head.

If that's the price I'm happy to pay it, and I think a lot of people will be when things like the OR CV1, PS4 Morpheus, and Samsung Gear VR hit the consumer market.

It'll be interesting to see what Magic Leap brings to the table. There are other ideas out there as well. I've seen Oculus test apps that can very accurately track every joint in your arms and hands, there's the Omni-Tread, various types of force feedback are being examined, a big stretch goal is to make Oculus Rift wireless at some point (Gear VR will be, obviously), etc.

One thing they're struggling with right now (you can listen to John Carmack describe this) is the different types of controllers and control schemes they want to have.
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The bottom line is my initial experiences with the DK1 and DK2 left me floored by the immersion and the possibilities, and everyone we've let sample it since has been similarly impressed. People who are "meh" on trying it end up talking about different ideas for this or that or could this be done or what about using it for that. I think VR's time, as something the consumer public can begin to embrace, is finally arriving.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Google glass really is not VR once sony and Oculus come out then you will see it.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:53 PM
 
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I am excited. I think 2020 will be the year that VR will start to come onto the market. I hope that it will be cool and high tech.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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So you have it, video glasses with headphones. What is discovered on top of this is going to be interesting.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Just remember that Oculus Rift 1.0 was a prototype built with off-the-shelf components. Since then some heavy investment has landed on the project. I would be surprised if the next generation or two of the headset was not both comfortable and impressive. I don't think there is that much opposition to head gear. I wear headphones or ear buds listening to music and audio books. I have worn glasses since I was 13 years old, and wear a magnifying headset for doing fine work. I haven't picked up Google Glass yet, not because it is uncomfortable, but because it doesn't yet have full functionality. They are already prototyping smart contact lenses. With nanometer scale circuitry, they can put a lot of smart in a very small space.

Wearable electronics has a bright future. My hearing aids have a bluetooth interface that makes syncing them to multiple devices a snap. I can carry my personal cell, my business cell, and an MP3 player and access them all by assigned priorities. It functions very much like a Star Trek TNG communicator, I just tap a button, tell it who I want to talk to, and it places the call. The current setup is 6 years old and due to be replaced. It cost me $5700 in 2008. I expect the next iteration to be cheaper and more capable.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Just remember that Oculus Rift 1.0 was a prototype built with off-the-shelf components. Since then some heavy investment has landed on the project. I would be surprised if the next generation or two of the headset was not both comfortable and impressive. I don't think there is that much opposition to head gear. I wear headphones or ear buds listening to music and audio books. I have worn glasses since I was 13 years old, and wear a magnifying headset for doing fine work. I haven't picked up Google Glass yet, not because it is uncomfortable, but because it doesn't yet have full functionality. They are already prototyping smart contact lenses. With nanometer scale circuitry, they can put a lot of smart in a very small space.

Wearable electronics has a bright future. My hearing aids have a bluetooth interface that makes syncing them to multiple devices a snap. I can carry my personal cell, my business cell, and an MP3 player and access them all by assigned priorities. It functions very much like a Star Trek TNG communicator, I just tap a button, tell it who I want to talk to, and it places the call. The current setup is 6 years old and due to be replaced. It cost me $5700 in 2008. I expect the next iteration to be cheaper and more capable.
The inherit problem with having a hidden blue tooth hearing aid, is that people don't see the hearing aid, they see some dude walking around and talking to himself.

I get that when I am wearing a blue tooth and a hood.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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Sort of reminds me of my family (and some friends) between 1994 and 1997. Bah, that 'internet' (said with a derisive tone) isn't going to change anything, it's just the newest fad that will fade away, and it's not really good for anything. Bah.

I was right, the internet did catch on and is useful and popular.
<shrug> The WWW part of the internet just broadened what was already developed or developing. Ten years earlier I was on Compuserve forums similar to this one. I was doing stock trades online before those dates. We knew that it would grow. I also was among the first 2% that had cell phones, back when they had a real purpose.

And a few years before your dates, Doug Trumbell (who did the special effects for "2001: A Space Odyssey") was trying to get interest in his new enhanced Todd-A-O. Sixty frames per second, 70 mm (the combination of which is STILL better res than 4K super-sets and appeared 3D without glasses due some esoteric ways the eye/brain system works) plus multi-channel sound that was amazing. I was so certain that the public would accept it that I invested a goodly sum. The closest it ever came to fruition was a devolved motion simulator in Las Vegas at one of the casino malls. Sometimes stuff fails to make it.

And a few years before that was quadraphonic sound. And a few years before that was Cinerama. And a few years before that was the orignal specc'd "Fantasia" All ultimately failed.

The public will do what the public does. Wishful thinking and great technology does not change things.
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