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Old 12-13-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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Nothing can travel faster than the luminal speed?
Have certain scientists in the past and present been artificially and unduly elevated to a celebrity position where they were/are revered by their peers, followers, and thus, laymen with no expertise in their fields, so that the statements of such people (no matter what they claim) could not be disputed? People must learn to question what they are told:
  • “Do I really know what I’m being told is true, or am I just assuming that it is true?”
  • “Have I looked into the subject matter deeply enough or am I mindlessly accepting it?”
  • “Who or what are the authority figures in my life that are influencing my thoughts and behaviors – governments, parents, friends, experts, religious beliefs, advertisements, scientific beliefs, trending topics on the internet,…?”
  • “Is there an ulterior motive behind the propaganda that is being cast upon me and the human race, and if so, what is that motive?”
Instead of being satisfied with the immediate answers that come to their minds, they must try to be with the questions and see what experiences or insights they gain from them.

Have you ever pondered upon the Special Relativity Theory? It is the theory that "precludes" any objects from travelling at superluminal speeds. Often the opponents of the ET Intervention claim that no such visitation by extraterrestrial races is possible because of the theory. I invite you to consider the theory from a new perspective.


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A vehicle traveling at a speed of v m/s for t seconds traveled a distance of x=vt . Suppose this vehicle had a mirror in the ceiling and floor. The passenger in the vehicle sees the light traveling from the floor to the ceiling at the luminal speed of c=3×10^8 m/s in T seconds for a distance of y=cT meters. An observer outside the vehicle sees the light traveling at the luminal speed for t seconds for a distance of z=ct meters when the light beam hits the ceiling. The assumption made here is that the situation can be described by a right triangle above and thus, the two (different) times, t and T, can be related by the Pythagorean Theorem as below:

t=T/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2), where "sqrt" is a symbol we use here to indicate the square root.
As v→c, the radicand 1-(v/c)^2→0, making the left-hand-side of the equation approach infinity. If v>c, the radicand 1-(v/c)^2<0, and thus an imaginary number in the denominator of the quantity. Hence, the assertion that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light is “proved.”

The equation in Special Relativity “precludes” any object from traveling at any speed close to the luminal speed, and thus, v≪c. Then, in the time t that it takes for the light beam to hit the ceiling as observed by an outside observer, the distance traveled by the vehicle and the distance traveled by the light to the ceiling as observed by an outside observer are significantly different, and the situation cannot be described by a right triangle because the distance x is significantly less than the distance z. The Pythagorean Theorem used to “prove” the theory does not apply in the situation where the distance from the floor to the ceiling is insignificant compared to the distance z as well. On the other hand, for the Pythagorean Theorem to be applied in the situation, the speed of the vehicle v must be quite close to the luminal speed c in order to form a right triangle as above. But then the theory indicates that the value v cannot be anywhere near c. It is a contradiction either way.

Regardless of the faulty assumption made in “proving” the theory, the fact that I have sighted an object that accelerated to a superluminal speed from a stationary position within a second or two is already a counterexample to this theory, which disproves it. The fact that many other people in the world have sighted such phenomenon verifies the disproof of the theory multiple times.

 
Old 12-13-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ResistTheETIntervention View Post
Nothing can travel faster than the luminal speed?
Have certain scientists in the past and present been artificially and unduly elevated to a celebrity position where they were/are revered by their peers, followers, and thus, laymen with no expertise in their fields, so that the statements of such people (no matter what they claim) could not be disputed? People must learn to question what they are told:
  • “Do I really know what I’m being told is true, or am I just assuming that it is true?”
  • “Have I looked into the subject matter deeply enough or am I mindlessly accepting it?”
  • “Who or what are the authority figures in my life that are influencing my thoughts and behaviors – governments, parents, friends, experts, religious beliefs, advertisements, scientific beliefs, trending topics on the internet,…?”
  • “Is there an ulterior motive behind the propaganda that is being cast upon me and the human race, and if so, what is that motive?”
Instead of being satisfied with the immediate answers that come to their minds, they must try to be with the questions and see what experiences or insights they gain from them.

Have you ever pondered upon the Special Relativity Theory? It is the theory that "precludes" any objects from travelling at superluminal speeds. Often the opponents of the ET Intervention claim that no such visitation by extraterrestrial races is possible because of the theory. I invite you to consider the theory from a new perspective.


----------------------------------------------

A vehicle traveling at a speed of v m/s for t seconds traveled a distance of x=vt . Suppose this vehicle had a mirror in the ceiling and floor. The passenger in the vehicle sees the light traveling from the floor to the ceiling at the luminal speed of c=3×10^8 m/s in T seconds for a distance of y=cT meters. An observer outside the vehicle sees the light traveling at the luminal speed for t seconds for a distance of z=ct meters when the light beam hits the ceiling. The assumption made here is that the situation can be described by a right triangle above and thus, the two (different) times, t and T, can be related by the Pythagorean Theorem as below:

t=T/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2), where "sqrt" is a symbol we use here to indicate the square root.
As v→c, the radicand 1-(v/c)^2→0, making the left-hand-side of the equation approach infinity. If v>c, the radicand 1-(v/c)^2<0, and thus an imaginary number in the denominator of the quantity. Hence, the assertion that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light is “proved.”

The equation in Special Relativity “precludes” any object from traveling at any speed close to the luminal speed, and thus, v≪c. Then, in the time t that it takes for the light beam to hit the ceiling as observed by an outside observer, the distance traveled by the vehicle and the distance traveled by the light to the ceiling as observed by an outside observer are significantly different, and the situation cannot be described by a right triangle because the distance x is significantly less than the distance z. The Pythagorean Theorem used to “prove” the theory does not apply in the situation where the distance from the floor to the ceiling is insignificant compared to the distance z as well. On the other hand, for the Pythagorean Theorem to be applied in the situation, the speed of the vehicle v must be quite close to the luminal speed c in order to form a right triangle as above. But then the theory indicates that the value v cannot be anywhere near c. It is a contradiction either way.

Regardless of the faulty assumption made in “proving” the theory, the fact that I have sighted an object that accelerated to a superluminal speed from a stationary position within a second or two is already a counterexample to this theory, which disproves it. The fact that many other people in the world have sighted such phenomenon verifies the disproof of the theory multiple times.
That's an extraordinary thing to claim. You'll need a lot more than a C-D post to prove it.

Special relativity theory, which has an extraordinary amount of evidence supporting it at least as a very good approximation of reality, says that no information-carrying entity can go faster than c, the speed of light in a vacuum, without violating causality. A violation of causality allows for things to cause other events backwards in time, leading to the so-called "grandfather paradox" (Google it for more info.)
 
Old 12-13-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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Then, in the time t that it takes for the light beam to hit the ceiling as observed by an outside observer, the distance traveled by the vehicle and the distance traveled by the light to the ceiling as observed by an outside observer are significantly different, and the situation cannot be described by a right triangle because the distance x is significantly less than the distance z. The Pythagorean Theorem used to “prove” the theory does not apply in the situation where the distance from the floor to the ceiling is insignificant compared to the distance z as well. On the other hand, for the Pythagorean Theorem to be applied in the situation, the speed of the vehicle v must be quite close to the luminal speed c in order to form a right triangle as above. But then the theory indicates that the value v cannot be anywhere near c. It is a contradiction either way.


Just. No.
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Regardless of the faulty assumption made in “proving” the theory, the fact that I have sighted an object that accelerated to a superluminal speed from a stationary position within a second or two is already a counterexample to this theory, which disproves it. The fact that many other people in the world have sighted such phenomenon verifies the disproof of the theory multiple times.
You haven't proven anything. Nor have you "sighted" what you claim. Nor has anyone else.

Time to crack a sophomore level physics book, and maybe an introductory geometry book while you're at it.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:52 PM
 
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I sighted a brilliant spot of light completely stationary in a clear blue sky, which suddenly accelerated leaving a white trail of light tapering off towards a point where it "poof" disappeared. It achieved a superluminal speed from a velocity of zero within a second or two.

Here are some experts in the fields that you're more likely to rely on.

The UFO Phenomena - People Speaking Out - GovernmentSecrets.com#

Filer's Files #44 - 2013 Albert Einstein Secret Alien Document - National UFO Center
 
Old 12-13-2014, 10:56 PM
 
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Each one of us human beings has the responsibility of becoming aware of the reality that is occurring in our world.

Regarding the Extraterrestrial Intervention, our ignorance is our worst enemy.

If you search, you can find youtube interviews of some of the people on http://www.governmentsecrets.com/ufo-phenomena-people-speaking/#

Here're some of them:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc (Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper in 2007)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3o0mpi6XCw (Astronaut, Edgar Mitchell interviewed in 2008)
Quote starting from 10:12
“Non-locality is the idea that this information between the two is transported or are instantly recognized regardless of what the other part is in the universe. Well, this kind of challenges Einstein’s concept that nothing moves faster than the speed of light. Here, we have validated that this is absolutely true - that it does. How this happens, the methodology, and the mechanism for it is still very elusive, but the fact that it does happen – that’s not in question any more.”

May we have the courage to face this and see it for what it is...
 
Old 12-13-2014, 11:13 PM
 
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I see you're running around spamming the same garbage verbatim on other forums too.

First go learn math. Then go learn some basic physics. Then come back and explain to us what the argument is that you're actually trying to make, and don't use nonsensical arguments to make it.
 
Old 12-14-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ResistTheETIntervention View Post
I sighted a brilliant spot of light completely stationary in a clear blue sky, which suddenly accelerated leaving a white trail of light tapering off towards a point where it "poof" disappeared. It achieved a superluminal speed from a velocity of zero within a second or two.

Here are some experts in the fields that you're more likely to rely on.

The UFO Phenomena - People Speaking Out - GovernmentSecrets.com#

Filer's Files #44 - 2013 Albert Einstein Secret Alien Document - National UFO Center
Impossible to determine its speed without knowing how far away it was.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:31 AM
Yac
 
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Op, you posted your... let's say theories in several religious forums, since it seems it really is more about what you believe in than actual science, I'm going to close this thread and direct those interested in the discussion to other threads created by the OP.
Yac.
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