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Old 09-12-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I remember back in the day when I got my first pc, computers were almost completely obsolete sometimes only months later (voodoo 1, 2, 3 etc), in the context of gaming.
But since ps3/xbox360 and crossplatform games being so abundant, this has slowed down significantly, and only picked up recently with 4k resolutions and 3d gaming. The consoles, which many PC gamers hates, actually stabilized the market. And now you can, like me, have an "ancient" computer and enjoy the latest games.
Consoles have nothing to do with it. Cross platform games have different resolution requirements for consoles vs PC, e. g. a game would have "high" setting on xbox, but it goes up to "ultra" on PC. A recent example is Destiny 2, which is capped at 30 FPS on consoles, but on PC 60 FPS will be the standard. And for anyone that thinks playing FPS games at anything below 60 fps is acceptable... well its not. There is a really noticeable difference. I am actually surprised that multiple people on this thread think that sub-60 fps performance is "good enough" or "acceptable". I mean, if you are playing Mario Kart, then yes, you can probably go as low as 23 fps and be alright. It has been a general wisdom for years now that a competitive multiplayer game should be played at 60 fps as a standard.
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:58 AM
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Consoles have nothing to do with it. Cross platform games have different resolution requirements for consoles vs PC, e. g. a game would have "high" setting on xbox, but it goes up to "ultra" on PC. A recent example is Destiny 2, which is capped at 30 FPS on consoles, but on PC 60 FPS will be the standard. And for anyone that thinks playing FPS games at anything below 60 fps is acceptable... well its not. There is a really noticeable difference. I am actually surprised that multiple people on this thread think that sub-60 fps performance is "good enough" or "acceptable". I mean, if you are playing Mario Kart, then yes, you can probably go as low as 23 fps and be alright. It has been a general wisdom for years now that a competitive multiplayer game should be played at 60 fps as a standard.
Nothing ? Well.. I beg to differ. If it wasn't for the consoles "holding pc's back", we'd have that arms race over again, with 4k graphics as standard long ago. Multiple game devs admitted that they simply couldn't make the game look that much better on pc than it does on the consoles - Witcher 3 was a prime example. It's not that it's specific tech solutions or limitations cause this - it's a matter of marketing mostly.

Also, while I appreciate this elitist approach, as a long time fps player (top 20 in my country in Unreal Tournament back in high school) I have to disagree. Playing competitive pvp fps, any lags or stutter is a problem, here I can agree. But things like the Division, where I only play pve ? Or any single player game ? Whatever works for you - works for you. There is no single "this is unacceptable" rule everyone agreed on. So respectfully, that's only like, your opinion man.
Please note that no one was limiting the scope of the discussion to "competitive multiplayer games" before you did. People play a ton of different games, and even if we limited the discussion to this particular niche, it would still not be true - I really can't imagine what the advantage of having 60 fps over 40 fps in something like World of Warships is. And it's a competitive multiplayer game, just not a twitch shooter.
Having said all that, we're getting rather off topic here so if you want to continue this discussion, we should move to the video games forum.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:09 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Update:

Phone: Dec. 22, 2017 - 22 days
PC: Dec. 25, 2015 - 2 years, 19 days

I am on my 8th phone and 8th PC.

History:

Current PC 8 (Asus Cybertron desktop, Windows 10) -
Dec. 25, 2015 - present
PC 7 (Dell XPS laptop, Windows 7/10) -
Aug. 25, 2011 - May 8, 2013 & June 19, 2014 - Dec. 25, 2015 - switched to Windows 10 on Oct. 5, 2015
PC 6 (Alienware Area-51 desktop, Windows Vista) -
Dec. 15, 2007 - June 19, 2014 (in limited use Aug. 25, 2011 - May 8, 2013)
PC 5 (Hewlett Packard, lower-end model, Windows XP) -
Dec. 2005 - Dec. 15, 2007
PC 4 (?, Windows XP) -
Feb. 13, 2004 - Dec. 2005
PC 3 (?, Windows 2000?) - another hand me down box
Dec. 28, 2002 - Feb. 13, 2004
PC 2 (?, Windows ME) - this one broke down after 3 days, Windows ME sucks!
Dec. 25, 2002 - Dec. 28, 2002
PC 1 (?) - hand me down box from my dad
fall 2002 - Dec. 25, 2002

Current phone 8 (iPhone 8 Plus)
Dec. 22, 2017 - present
Phone 7 (iPhone 6 Plus)
June 25, 2015 - Dec. 22, 2017
Phone 6 (iPhone 6 Plus, cracked the screen June 21, 2015)
Dec. 25, 2014 - June 25, 2015
Phone 5 (Samsung Galaxy S3)
Dec. 25, 2012 - Dec. 25, 2014
Phone 4 (Motorola Droid Bionic)
Sept. 17, 2011 - Dec. 25, 2012
Phone 3 (Motorola Droid)
July 3, 2010 - Sept. 17, 2011
Phone 2 (LG Voyager)
Dec. 25, 2008 - July 3, 2010
Phone 1 (LG VX6100 flip phone)
Dec. 25, 2004 - early 2005
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: San Bernardino County (previously L.A.)
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Main computer - Lenovo desktop - I think it's 4 yrs old.

Mini HP laptop - several yrs old (still working strong!)

iPad - I think about 4 yrs old too

Samsung Android phone - I think 4-5 yrs old

I still have & will ALWAYS have a landline phone too.

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I'm definitely not the type who goes out & gets the biggest & best every chance I get. I try to make them last as long as possible.
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Old 01-21-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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I have a good answer. My computer was purchased on 29 June 2014 for 0.4 bitcoins.

Now my computer is almost worthless and the .4 bitcoins would be worth about $5000.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:19 PM
 
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the computer i am using now is 8 years old its a gateway desktop. I was using a CRT monitor from 2002, but it broke yesterday ( i WILL be repairing it and using it still ) I can't give up my favorite CRT, not yet! for now i am using my backup lcd monitor.
On my 8 year old gateway: Linux mint with a amd phenom 9100e quad core with 4 gb memory when it was new it claimed to be the "multitasking monster"

my other computers include an:

+a dell dimension 4500 i got free and repaired the motherboard - works great for things that need xp -2003
+dell precision 350 that i used daily for a while in 2017 to prove the pentium 4 can still be used today. -2002
+IBM Aptiva that is the first computer i ever owned, windows 98 still works on it. -1998
+The HP "sloweron" used it a lot but i needs motherboard repair and i have not gotton around to fixing it. 1.6 Ghz single core celeron. when it was new it ran vista with 512mb ram. -2007
i had more computers but i got rid of them in the fall

My phone is a $23 is a Lucky Goldstar (LG) flip phone from wallmart i bought in 2017, before that i had a ZTE flip phone for 3 years.
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Old 02-11-2018, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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for me

Phone - December 2013

Computer - October 2010

Cellphone: October, 2014. It cost $20. on a closeout sale and is dull-normal in intelligence, which is all I need. It takes photos and videos and has a full-size, slide-out keyboard. I spend only $6.92 per month for service, with 60 minutes calling time. I've saved-up 1,475 minutes over the time I've had it. I will never understand why I paid $26. per month for landline service, for so many years. Samsung brand.

Computer: April, 2007. I bought a high-end, video-oriented model, with a quad-core processor and every type of audio/video input and output, except component. It has an ATSC tuner and recorder and can edit and produce 4K video. Nothing has ever gone bad with it, except an RF input that I could fix myself. So as long as it keeps working and doing what I need for my photo and video purposes, I will keep using it. I paid $130. two years ago, to install Windows 10, 32-bit version. H-P brand, with Samsung dual harddrives.
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Computer 3 years, previous one 8 years
Phone just bought, previous one 3 years, the one before 10 years
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:34 AM
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Just got a new phone: Samsung galaxy J5, the latest model. ~12$/month, it includes unlimited calls and texts, 2GB of data and the phone installment. Not a bad deal I'd like to think, and the phone itself seems awesome so far.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Nothing ? Well.. I beg to differ. If it wasn't for the consoles "holding pc's back", we'd have that arms race over again, with 4k graphics as standard long ago. Multiple game devs admitted that they simply couldn't make the game look that much better on pc than it does on the consoles - Witcher 3 was a prime example. It's not that it's specific tech solutions or limitations cause this - it's a matter of marketing mostly.
No, we wouldn't. Not everyone can afford a $700 graphics card (disregarding miner shortages and assuming you could actually get a $700 video card for around $700.). Even a GTX 1080 struggles with 4K on a lot of games. Ideally you want the 1080 Ti though which means you're looking at around $1,400 to $1,600 or so for a 4K G-sync panel and the 1080 Ti at MSRP. That's a lot of money.

While Witcher 3 looks pretty good on the PS4/xBox it comes at the cost of being choppy. Neither can maintain even 30 FPS although they've gotten closer with optimization patches. With my 970 I can run 1440p at ultra with mostly 45 FPS, but I don't run at ultra because I'd rather have worse graphics that are smooth than choppy graphics that are better. Less choppy at higher resolution and higher graphics settings than a console though, but I ran the Witcher more at medium/high settings instead. YMMV. You could certainly run the Witcher 4K with a 970 or 1060 on low settings and probably get the same or better experience you would with a console at 900/1080p. It's your game and your money. Personally, I wouldn't waste my money on a 4K monitor if I just intended to play on low settings. It's not so much that the lower frame rate on a game like the Witcher 3 is a disadvantage. 30 FPS is okay for that type of game as it's not so twitch based. Visually it's less enjoyable, however, even with g-sync.
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