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Old 05-28-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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A computer is so far beyond you physically it's no comparison...A computer is never going to have the flaws of a human...
A computer can't adapt - how will a computer "react" to an unanticipated situation? Let's say your car ends-up off-road for some reason - let's see if the computer can out-drive a human in that situation.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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A computer can't adapt - how will a computer "react" to an unanticipated situation? Let's say your car ends-up off-road for some reason - let's see if the computer can out-drive a human in that situation.
You mean like driving around on mars autonomously?
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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You mean like driving around on mars autonomously?
The rovers don't drive around on Mars autonomously.
Do some research about how "autonomous" the "autonomous" rover tests actually are - and the speed of the "autonomous" driving.

BTW - I have designed and built autonomous robots, so I do know a little bit on the subject.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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The rovers don't drive around on Mars autonomously.
Mars rover Curiosity completes first autonomous mission - CBS News

How old is this tech now?

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Do some research about how "autonomous" the "autonomous" rover tests actually are - and the speed of the "autonomous" driving.
Bottom line is we have computer than can beat a human at Jeopardy, since you are familiar with robots you should be familia with the tech behind Watson and realize what an accomplish that is. It's far more complicated than something as simple as keeping a car between the lines.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:28 PM
 
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LOL - read it...
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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...It's far more complicated than something as simple as keeping a car between the lines.
Driving "autonomously" is far more complicated than "keeping a car between the lines." You have to look for low-hanging obstacles, drop-offs, path obstacles. You have to navigate maze obstacles. You have to recognize when you are traveling in a "trap route." You have to make sure you are making progress in the direction you wish to travel. You have to calculate alternate routes...
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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Driving "autonomously" is far more complicated than "keeping a car between the lines." You have to look for low-hanging obstacles, drop-offs, path obstacles. You have to navigate maze obstacles. You have to recognize when you are traveling in a "trap route." You have to make sure you are making progress in the direction you wish to travel. You have to calculate alternate routes...
All of which is nothing compared to answering a Jeopardy question where you have to navigate the nuances of human speech amongst many other obstacles.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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All of which is nothing compared to answering a Jeopardy question where you have to navigate the nuances of human speech amongst many other obstacles.
But Watson was developed for question-answering and wouldn't be of any benefit whatsoever in autonomous terrain navigation.

Humans have the ability to recognize potential hazards and compensate for them. Computers are reactionary and respond to imminent hazards.

A human can drive along a road, see a boulder rolling down the hill up ahead, and stop before reaching that point.
A computer will drive along a road, receive an impact from a boulder, and try to recover.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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But Watson was developed for question-answering and wouldn't be of any benefit whatsoever in autonomous terrain navigation.
Watson was developed to provide a solution to a problem without knowing the answer beforehand. This is not like a chess computer where it can simply use brute force and calculate every possible answer. Such a computer with Watson's capabilities would take up many warehouses. It "thinks", it has to analyze the problem and determine what the answer is. The technology behind it can be applied to anything.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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I'm just wondering what theses suckers will cost, not to mention the cost of repair and maintenance. Oh well, I'm sure at least that they will be hybrid or electric. Will be great for off roading...
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