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Old 06-21-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Lakewood NJ/Murrells Inlet SC/ N. Naples FL/Swainton NJ
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I have been soaking up as much particle physics and cosmology as I can. I am far from an understanding of the mathematics and theorems presented, but I am at least gaining knowledge of the basic theories and principals involved.

As to the as yet unexplained weirdness of our universe (dark matter, dark energy, accelerated expansion, etc.) there seems to be no evidence that supports any of the current theories. But I keep asking myself "What about black holes?". Why could they not be a doorway for the strange invisible "stuff" that is causing the strangeness observed? Be they a gateway to another universe or not, we know matter goes in. Why not stuff from another universe coming out?

Is there anyone theories that relate universe strangeness to the action of black holes? Or is there an explanation that makes this unlikely?
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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I have been soaking up as much particle physics and cosmology as I can. I am far from an understanding of the mathematics and theorems presented, but I am at least gaining knowledge of the basic theories and principals involved.

As to the as yet unexplained weirdness of our universe (dark matter, dark energy, accelerated expansion, etc.) there seems to be no evidence that supports any of the current theories. But I keep asking myself "What about black holes?". Why could they not be a doorway for the strange invisible "stuff" that is causing the strangeness observed? Be they a gateway to another universe or not, we know matter goes in. Why not stuff from another universe coming out?

Is there anyone theories that relate universe strangeness to the action of black holes? Or is there an explanation that makes this unlikely?
The current theories exist as a way of mathematically interpreting scientific observation.

I don't really see how black holes could be an explaination for dark energy as they essentially have the opposite effect of dark energy as they are super massive and therefore have a huge gravitational field.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Arlington VA
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"Dark matter" and "dark energy" will one day be revealed...and it won't be as mysterious as people thought it once was. It's simply stuff that our instruments haven't picked up on yet.

My leading candidate for dark matter?

Neutrinos.
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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I have been soaking up as much particle physics and cosmology as I can. I am far from an understanding of the mathematics and theorems presented, but I am at least gaining knowledge of the basic theories and principals involved.

As to the as yet unexplained weirdness of our universe (dark matter, dark energy, accelerated expansion, etc.) there seems to be no evidence that supports any of the current theories. But I keep asking myself "What about black holes?". Why could they not be a doorway for the strange invisible "stuff" that is causing the strangeness observed? Be they a gateway to another universe or not, we know matter goes in. Why not stuff from another universe coming out?

Is there anyone theories that relate universe strangeness to the action of black holes? Or is there an explanation that makes this unlikely?
I'm not a bit competent to answer your question in any meaningful way, but I do know that some people have speculated about this. I read a book about 20 years ago whose title was something like "Black Holes and White Fountains." Here's a site that might give you some leads - Ask an Astrophysicist: Black Holes
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Lakewood NJ/Murrells Inlet SC/ N. Naples FL/Swainton NJ
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I was raised in a Christian home. My mother was very religious. My 90 year old father still attend Church. Growing up I believed most of the religious teachings I was subject to. Now, as an older adult, not so much.

I do believe in science. I do accept the more-or-less proven scientific theories as to how we got to where we are. However sometimes I say to myself: "Some of the theoretical physics theories currently being postulated seem almost as crazy and religious beliefs! It is like they are asking us to believe in dark stuff or stings as a matter of faith." As one credible scientist stated on a reason documentary I watched - "If it cannot be proven with experimentation, it is not science, it is philosophy."
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Arlington VA
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In order to understand black holes, you must abstractly understand the concept of gravity and how it is a fundamental feature of a spacetime that is "curved" upon itself in a higher dimension.

You will have to understand this visually, and this will aid you:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPVK08G8Fk
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:20 AM
 
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I have been soaking up as much particle physics and cosmology as I can. I am far from an understanding of the mathematics and theorems presented, but I am at least gaining knowledge of the basic theories and principals involved.

As to the as yet unexplained weirdness of our universe (dark matter, dark energy, accelerated expansion, etc.) there seems to be no evidence that supports any of the current theories. But I keep asking myself "What about black holes?". Why could they not be a doorway for the strange invisible "stuff" that is causing the strangeness observed? Be they a gateway to another universe or not, we know matter goes in. Why not stuff from another universe coming out?

Is there anyone theories that relate universe strangeness to the action of black holes? Or is there an explanation that makes this unlikely?


what is it about the current models of gravity that make you think this?
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Lakewood NJ/Murrells Inlet SC/ N. Naples FL/Swainton NJ
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what is it about the current models of gravity that make you think this?
The scientific belief that the force of gravity is too weak. Where is it going (or hiding)?
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