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Old 01-23-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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It is possible the Holocene Epoch which is our current interglacial period, occurred rapidly, with significant warming in only a few years. The Quaternary ice age, of which our interglacial epoch is a part, will return. The state of the earth over the past few millions of years has been 80% of the time in ice age, 20% in interglacial. The prior interglacial period, known as the Eemian Epoch went from 130,000 to 115,000 BC. While modern humans were around during that time, there doesn't appear to have been civilization as we have it in this interglacial period. We may have become more intelligent and social as species due to the Toba near extinction event. Likely only the smartest and most social humans survived it.

Humans come from warm areas, and thrive in warmth. More die from cold than heat. Warming is preferable to cooling. Though we likely have little choice in the matter, when the Holocene comes to an end, the Quaternary will resume.
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Old 01-24-2017, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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It is possible the Holocene Epoch which is our current interglacial period, occurred rapidly, with significant warming in only a few years. The Quaternary ice age, of which our interglacial epoch is a part, will return. The state of the earth over the past few millions of years has been 80% of the time in ice age, 20% in interglacial. The prior interglacial period, known as the Eemian Epoch went from 130,000 to 115,000 BC. While modern humans were around during that time, there doesn't appear to have been civilization as we have it in this interglacial period. We may have become more intelligent and social as species due to the Toba near extinction event. Likely only the smartest and most social humans survived it.

Humans come from warm areas, and thrive in warmth. More die from cold than heat. Warming is preferable to cooling. Though we likely have little choice in the matter, when the Holocene comes to an end, the Quaternary will resume.
The question remains and that is; have other periods pre human had accelerated warming periods similar or alike in the majority of markets to the last 200 years??

That is the question.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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2035 is not much time. You must be young. It seems like yesterday it was 1995. A decade goes by fast and honestly in 10 years I still see us mostly driving internal combustion engines with no batteries unless they can improve battery technology by at least double it's current capacity and durability which I doubt.

Throw in the fact that all these third world nations are going to start industrializing, and it's a recipe for disaster, really. We need investment in clean tech and we need it fast, in my opinion. I don't think we're going to destroy the planet from a runaway greenhouse effect, but the CO2 level rise is not something that will be slowed easily.. even our clean emission vehicles put out CO2 so we need a way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere... more trees for example.. get those barbarians in Africa and Central America to stop clear cutting their forests.

Point three.. more and more stuff these days is built to be "disposable" .. if your washer only lasts 3-4 years instead of 15 years like many cheapo washers lasted not that long ago, all those extra resources to go building more "junk" to keep the corporation profitable and the fractional reserve system from imploding all put out pollutants. Steady economic "growth" and a stable environment are not really compatible.
All these people and most of them increasing their environmental footprints, as they aspire to follow the lifestyle we have set up for them to want. Any reduction in pollution by using alternate, clean-energy sources, is overwhelmed by the exponential increases in the number of those using more of it. Modern humans are so destructive to the planet and so consumptive of resources, that I don't think that any more than 10% of our current population, could be sustained over an extended period of time.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It is possible the Holocene Epoch which is our current interglacial period, occurred rapidly, with significant warming in only a few years.
A growing body evidence suggests a cataclysmic event occurred, causing the complete destruction of the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet, which accelerated the transition from the Glacial Period to the Inter-Glacial Period.

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The question remains and that is; have other periods pre human had accelerated warming periods similar or alike in the majority of markets to the last 200 years??

That is the question.
Previous Inter-Glacial Periods were actually warmer than present.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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in USA, we lead the world in pollution humanity produces.
Err... False. China overtook the US in CO2 emissions a decade ago. I'm old enough to remember pre-CARB California. I remember Boston Harbor as a toxic waste dump. Even if the nutters in D.C. abolish the EPA, the west coast and the northeast corridor with 2/3 of the national economy have very strict state environmental law.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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A growing body evidence suggests a cataclysmic event occurred, causing the complete destruction of the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet, which accelerated the transition from the Glacial Period to the Inter-Glacial Period.



Previous Inter-Glacial Periods were actually warmer than present.
Then some throws a monkey wrench into it:
World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data | Daily Mail Online
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Old 02-08-2017, 04:16 AM
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Just fyi, Daily Mail is a sensationalist tabloid and I wouldn't use it to back up any claim.
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Just fyi, Daily Mail is a sensationalist tabloid and I wouldn't use it to back up any claim.
Yac.
Perhaps you are correct:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/s...data.html?_r=0

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...ng-pause-study
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:31 PM
 
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To protect fragile ecosystems and to build sustainable communities that are resilient to climate change—including extreme weather and climate events—a climate-literate citizenry is essential.

Climate Science Literacy
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I find that so many deniers of Climate change always defer to historical "Climate always changes etc. But even tho it's been exposed the Oil Industries bought a paid for those few scientists to deny what the other 98% of scientists claim... It occurs to me that those that want to believe it isn't a real phenomena.. is because they aren't in the regions that are being directly affected!

Denier's aSSume extreme's happening these past few years is what ALWAYS happens.. meanwhile the RED Flags to those that study it see the entirety of whats happening....

I found this video and commentary about what was witnessed.. and even they were totally taken aback... These people have the patience of Job to wait for..try and document things!!

Video ~~
https://youtu.be/hC3VTgIPoGU

Article~~
Man points camera at ice - then captures the unimaginable on film | Newsner

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In November 2016, the Arctic was 20 degrees warmer than average, which is much warmer than even research models had predicted.

Unfortunately, we're faced with disaster if we don't zero our global greenhouse emissions by 2070. But on the positive side, we still have a chance to make that happen.

Hopefully, this video will help convince more people of how serious the situation is, so that together we can help to reverse the trend!

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