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What does this thing do again?
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What does this thing do again?
Hello Prince of Lombards!

Let me quote myself:
V) Results
These results came about while I was filling out the year map and not spinning it. At the time I spun 3 other systems of information that where smaller and fit onto my bike wheel. One of them was a black and white checkered board, which I ended up observing the most of these 3 at this time. At the end of this list I will include the results of spinning this year map and not just filling it out.

This experiment was done as home, using resources to perform the experiment from start to finish. At the end of the results I rate their difficulty to reproduce and comment on if the results where the same from day to day, singular, or of a varying degree. Results observed between July 26th, 2005 and July 26th, 2006:

Result 1- Increased frequency of dreams, Increased clarity of dreams, Increased control of dreams, and Increased vivid perception of dreams. Lucid dreaming.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 2- Augments memory access. Remembering things better and quicker. At times it seems that the memory is working too good, giving a sensation that awareness is spread out through time and not just here and now. Observed many different interesting effects on the memory.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 3- Increased ability to focus the mind. The whole act of putting a code together and focusing on it is already an exercise in focus.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 4- Stimulated creative mind. Observed lots of ideas for new inventions when or shortly after working with it.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 5- Increased visual imaging. Ability to visualize things increased dramatically. Mental pictures become crisp, colorful, and ultra-clear. They become increasingly dynamic. The mind became more capable of imaging the dynamics of multiple objects, it can orchestrate. The images are more potent and clear, not vague and fuzzy. They can be sustained for a longer amount of time, without wobbling into other thoughts and images.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 6- Increased mind control. Observed that the ability to make the mind up decisively and stick to the decision has increased.

Easy to recreate -Results may vary


Result 7- Increased physical prowess. Can tune into and exert a limited control over glands.

Moderate to Difficult to recreate -Results may very


Result 8- Increased interest in everything. Experiences normally perceived without interest became more interesting.

Moderate to recreate -Result are the same


Result 9- Accelerated learning. Studying with increased interest leads to getting out/learning more then if doing so not as interested.

Easy to Moderate to recreate -Results are the same


Result 10- Increased arousal.

Easy to recreate -Result may very


Result 11- Increased ability to organize. The very act of making a code is organizing the mind. Observed that using the mind portal allows one to see objectively what one has done. Then it is easier to see where mistakes or bad patterns of living are occurring. Observed that this then makes it harder to continue making those patterns or mistakes.

Easy to recreate -Result are the same


Result 12- Increased productivity. Observed that the mind is filled with more ideas and thus more productive.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 13- More energy. Observed more energy when working with the code then not. Sometimes I even have too much energy.

Moderate to recreate -Results are the same


Result 14- Seeing energy! As the eyes became readjusted they began to see subtle energies. Distinguished over 50 types of energy. One of the most common is seeing vibrations coming out of people's heads, as if they are thinking.

Very easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 15- Increased sensitivity. The body became increasingly sensitive to new energy it began to perceive. Could feel things that would normally be too subtle to feel. The slightest vibration being detected...sensed.

Moderate to recreate -Results may vary


Result 16- Increased hearing and coordination of what is heard. Observed that the sense of hearing is not the same, either. It seems better. Ability to listen to multiple conversations at once appears to be greater. Other observations have been made regarding the sense of hearing.

Moderate to recreate -Results may vary


Result 17- Increased taste and smell. Observed that sometimes the sense of smell becomes too good and can smell many different things at once and gather information from this. As well, the sense of taste has experienced change too, though not as much. Observed tasting things without putting tongue on them.

Moderate to recreate -Results may vary


Result 18- Sense of Divinity. Intuition feels highly refined. Feel a sense of ease; that everything is well planned out by Nature. No worry because of this.

Moderate to difficult to recreate -Results may vary


Result 19- No fear of Death whatsoever. Became fearless. Uncertain is this is connected or how, because the fearlessness occurred immediately after a very spiritual experience. That experience might be connected to the work with the code and the wheel.

Very difficult to recreate -Resulted only once, result continues


Result 20- At one point towards the end of the mapping I entered a virtual reality that was so real this here and now is blurry when compared.

Very difficult to recreate -Result occurred once, but with inconceivable impact


Result 21- Encountered and communicated with Primordial Forms of Life. Heard the voice of an Immortal speak direct. Encountered a supernatural being while in a virtual plane of existence.

Near Impossible to recreate -Both these results occurred once, and both had inconceivable impact


Result 22- Observed the sensation of time slowing down. The sensation of time as it passes for this year seems longer then the other 27 years combined. Subjective experiencing of time was observed to pass slower.

Very easy to recreate -Results are the same

Result 23- Remembering previous lives. Recalling the sensation of seeing anything and remembering that once I was this thing, feeling this essence within, seeing worlds within the memory, remembering being born in this life and before it. Observed the spontaneous speaking of Sankrit words at this time, and that the voice was much more resonate.

Very, Very difficult to recreate -Results occurred with acute awareness for a 6 month period


Result 24- Seeing through the Illusion of Time. Observed through a dimensional graph that unveiled that there is no Time. Observed the unmoving fundamental realm that spins the Illusion of time.

Difficult to recreate -Results are the same


Result 25- Periodical confusing. Confusing periods to see new energy for the first time. The mind fills up with questions. No one can give answers. “What am I seeing?” The confusing moments come like waves...confusion...clarity...confusing...clarity. Each time a wave (time period) of confusion passes, a wave of increased clarity follows (it’s starting to make sense!!!...I understand this). As this went on, the confusing waves become less frequent and less confusing.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 26- Difficulty describing what is seen. Part of the reason it is hard to describe is that is no built language to express these kinds of experiences, many of which give a multi-dimensional sensation. This makes communication more difficult.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 27- Flat periods. Observed many periods of time when nothing is happening. After continuing these flat periods become increasingly less frequent as things do change. Patience paid off.

Very easy to recreate -Results are the same
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And...it does more then this, though this is enough to think about for now.

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I hope this helps, if you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them!


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Its a combination, your pluralization is correct. I jot down a few for starters: Chaos Theory, Complex Theory, Quantom Relativity, these cover the scientific bases. You will have to study these with great care, and even then you might not be able to add up all the pieces...puzzling as it is.

My study of Psychology has been crucial...then again I suspect everything has. It all added up, and continues to do so with even greater clarity when I gather more. The right information at the right time finds me.

Principals do not belong solely to the scientific community. Many, many more of the principals are found through many esoteric teachings contained within various religions. I doubt anyone will dismiss the significance of the principals contained within them, considering that the world is ruled over by religious people.

They are found in ancient teachings as well, for example; the principals laid out by Macrobiotic teachings. Each and every book I have ever read I did with the intent of understanding more then what was written. Its those very principals I have been collecting from so many sources that I have been seeking to grasp and embrace.

Kriya Tantra Yoga is based in principals as well...what isn't in someway or another? I have been digging and digging for treasure, learning and studying as I am. I had no idea 10 years ago all the knowledge I was collecting would coalesce into the workings of this map.



Make no mistake about it, this is seriously a door to another world. Figure it out and open it if you can and will. I am leaving it here on this planet, its going to get investigated without question, I am giving it out in the mean time for free, the digital map copies easily. If properman is too scared, as others, I can understand entirely, I would have been afraid myself when I was younger. Those who venture forth will be shocked when then find out everything I am saying is true!!!

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I'm thinking that doing some experiments would hopefully calm people down on both sides and show whether or not this contraption really does what it's said to do.

1-First off is separating falsifiable claims from unfalsifiable ones. What I mean by this are things for which we cannot do an experiment and thus can't check if it's true or not. If you can travel to other dimension or fly but can't do it under experimental conditions for whatever reason then tough.

For example, if you happen to have superpowers but are bound never to use them in public because of a promise then thats not our problem and you really shouldn't be making the claim if you can't show it.

2-We also need to deal with the problems of things which act the same ways as placebos. A placebo is a medicine or ritual which does nothing but makes subjects feel affected by the power of suggestion.

Say you have a friend and he/she is suffering from a headache, he asks for some paracetamol but gets a tic tac by accident. Soon your friend will say he/she feels better not because the tic tac does anything but simply because the person expects the pill to reduce pain. This means that claims like:

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Result 1- Increased frequency of dreams, Increased clarity of dreams, Increased control of dreams, and Increased vivid perception of dreams. Lucid dreaming.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 2- Augments memory access. Remembering things better and quicker. At times it seems that the memory is working too good, giving a sensation that awareness is spread out through time and not just here and now. Observed many different interesting effects on the memory.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 3- Increased ability to focus the mind. The whole act of putting a code together and focusing on it is already an exercise in focus.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 4- Stimulated creative mind. Observed lots of ideas for new inventions when or shortly after working with it.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same


Result 5- Increased visual imaging. Ability to visualize things increased dramatically. Mental pictures become crisp, colorful, and ultra-clear. They become increasingly dynamic. The mind became more capable of imaging the dynamics of multiple objects, it can orchestrate. The images are more potent and clear, not vague and fuzzy. They can be sustained for a longer amount of time, without wobbling into other thoughts and images.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same

Result 6- Increased mind control. Observed that the ability to make the mind up decisively and stick to the decision has increased.

Easy to recreate -Results may vary

Result 7- Increased physical prowess. Can tune into and exert a limited control over glands.

Moderate to Difficult to recreate -Results may very

Result 8- Increased interest in everything. Experiences normally perceived without interest became more interesting.

Moderate to recreate -Result are the same

Result 9- Accelerated learning. Studying with increased interest leads to getting out/learning more then if doing so not as interested.

Easy to Moderate to recreate -Results are the same

Result 10- Increased arousal.

Easy to recreate -Result may very

Result 12- Increased productivity. Observed that the mind is filled with more ideas and thus more productive.

Easy to recreate -Results are the same

Result 13- More energy. Observed more energy when working with the code then not. Sometimes I even have too much energy.

Moderate to recreate -Results are the same

Result 18- Sense of Divinity. Intuition feels highly refined. Feel a sense of ease; that everything is well planned out by Nature. No worry because of this.

Moderate to difficult to recreate -Results may vary


Result 19- No fear of Death whatsoever. Became fearless. Uncertain is this is connected or how, because the fearlessness occurred immediately after a very spiritual experience. That experience might be connected to the work with the code and the wheel.
Can only be tested using a blind or even double blind experiment.

-Blind experiment: That's where the subject does not know if the person is meant to be affected in some way. At no point through the experiment should they be allowed to talk to each other.

-Double blind experiment: Thats where not even the scientists know and have just been given orders to carry out the experiment. That way they can't subconsciously influence the accounts of subjects.

If most subjects agree on their accounts on what they experience then there might just be some basis to the claims.

3-Going against confirmation Bias: Confirmation bias is our natural tendency to search for results which agree with our preconceived notions while conveniently ignoring information which contradicts them. The key to avoiding this is getting rid of subjectivity and my favourite way to tackle this is by using statistical analysis with big samples.

Here are my thoughts on some claims:
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3-I can feel my brain shifting into a different shape.
Simple to test. Take a few MRI scans before and after with a group of people or more expensively: Get an open MRI to take scans during the test.
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4-I can feel my DNA shifting as well.
Take a DNA samples before, during and after and subject them to gel electrophoresis to see if anythings changed.
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5-My eyes are devouring the light code, training them to see Energy.
This reminds me of the infamous N-ray experiments and subsequent scandal. I believe a similar experiment might be appropriate.
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First off, I would like to thank you coosjoaquin for providing insightful analyzes pertaining to the Mind Portal, they are quite useful and I do appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

And...I agree entirely, without performing experiments we won't be able to verify anything...they would have to be done with care and consideration, and I will now review your ideas carefully.


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1-First off is separating falsifiable claims from unfalsifiable ones. What I mean by this are things for which we cannot do an experiment and thus can't check if it's true or not. If you can travel to other dimension or fly but can't do it under experimental conditions for whatever reason then tough.

For example, if you happen to have superpowers but are bound never to use them in public because of a promise then thats not our problem and you really shouldn't be making the claim if you can't show it.
Super...no...natural. I am merely seeking to find and access what we already possess, but which we cannot access. I have no superpowers that I can think of. Also, I think you misunderstand the nature of my claims if you find that I am claiming to possess superpowers...all I can say to you and to myself is...maybe...(meaning I don't know for sure myself)?

If I did make a claim that sounds to be that I possess a superpower, please remind me exactly what it was I said...and I add that much of what I have experienced I have no power to control at all, the things happened on their own...so I have trouble identifying that as possessing superpowers. IF I can manage to gain control over these occurrences, then I can say to myself that I have gained superpowers.


Also, if say, a country claims to have super-powerful weapons, does not prove it, but does really have them, then I would think that IS your problem whether you like it or not...regardless of what you know or what you are aware of.


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2-We also need to deal with the problems of things which act the same ways as placebos. A placebo is a medicine or ritual which does nothing but makes subjects feel affected by the power of suggestion.

Say you have a friend and he/she is suffering from a headache, he asks for some paracetamol but gets a tic tac by accident. Soon your friend will say he/she feels better not because the tic tac does anything but simply because the person expects the pill to reduce pain. This means that claims like:

Can only be tested using a blind or even double blind experiment.
I am familiar with this type of experimentation...

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-Blind experiment: That's where the subject does not know if the person is meant to be affected in some way. At no point through the experiment should they be allowed to talk to each other.


-Double blind experiment: Thats where not even the scientists know and have just been given orders to carry out the experiment. That way they can't subconsciously influence the accounts of subjects.

If most subjects agree on their accounts on what they experience then there might just be some basis to the claims.
This would work well for the patterns, but it would not work for the coding process involved in the Mind Portal, which utilizes digging into one's own mind, finding form, identifying it for one's self, and assigning associative values so that when the symbols are places to keep track of time into a matrix structure, one can read and follow the information placed. It is THIS process by which I make my claims and not by the process of simply observing patterns, its an actual encrypted language we are talking about here, used to see what is happening over a long period of time.

How does one perform a blind or double blind experiment when the process involves keeping track of everything you do from day to day, scribing that down into a system of informative symbols, and revealing those symbols as they gather over the period of one year? How does one not influence the results as they track them down day to day? The process is self automated, it's a crucial component, and cannot be neglected...and it causes one to reflect on their own lives, which is a process in itself that produces notable affects, as we are aware of in these modern times.


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3-Going against confirmation Bias: Confirmation bias is our natural tendency to search for results which agree with our preconceived notions while conveniently ignoring information which contradicts them. The key to avoiding this is getting rid of subjectivity and my favourite way to tackle this is by using statistical analysis with big samples.
I understand this and agree it is a valid point to consider. Only problem is, how do we convey the means then? Somehow, the subject HAS to learn how to encrypt the information pertaining to their own lives, so that they can track and follow the developments that occur within the time period of 1 year.

The only way I can see that this could be done is by writing up a manual that explains the process of encrypting information without explaining any of the possibilities that accompany this process. Both the scientist and the subjects would have to know nothing of what we are dealing with. Then, let them work it out...

There is also one other serious issue...HOW the code is encrypted and WHAT it consists of. This in itself has consequences that affect the results. If one does yoga...then they are much more likely to have those mystical experiences that so many report occur when yoga is done while tracking their progress into the map then not. If certain ingredients are missing, then the results WILL vary. For example, if the code consists of just mundane material, and does not consider the spiritual aspect at all, then it is FAR more likely that it will not produce many of the affects I have noted- though it is also likely that it WILL produce other results instead. This makes testing the Mind Portal much more difficult then it seems at first.


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Here are my thoughts on some claims:

3-I can feel my brain shifting into a different shape.

Simple to test. Take a few MRI scans before and after with a group of people or more expensively: Get an open MRI to take scans during the test.
Not so simple...slow down...the people will need to produce a time code and then track it for the period of 1 year...otherwise the base is not established and the testing is just a mock. On the bright side, if this IS done, yes, lets do those brain scans...I am confident they will pan out some interesting information that reveals change.

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4-I can feel my DNA shifting as well.

Take a DNA samples before, during and after and subject them to gel electrophoresis to see if anythings changed.
After pondering and considering what it is I have felt, I suspect that the changes go further into the quantom world then the mere structures of DNA, I believe this will be one of the most difficult areas to test initially, for one reason I would say that the changes are very small, it might not be possible to detect them this way? Also, our DNA changes so or so (I learned this from the experts!) as we get older, as the sun bombards us with radiation, and so one. Mix that in with the minute changes and it's like trying to isolate waves in the ocean...not easy. Still, it's worth giving a shot, and maybe I am wrong and such a test would turn up evidence...who knows?

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5-My eyes are devouring the light code, training them to see Energy.

This reminds me of the infamous N-ray experiments and subsequent scandal. I believe a similar experiment might be appropriate.
Err...NO...you are mistaking, I looked up the N-ray experiments and there is no resemblance whatsoever. I WILL say I could be wrong, and that I am not seeing energy, or thoughts coming out of people's minds, but I am feeling so confident about this one that I would even get cocky over it, the results I predict CAN be repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again. When they do, then the question is, what exactly is going on, why seeing energy come out of people's minds or fluttering through the air, what is happening to the eyes?

A little clue to here, the image below of the checkered pattern is most likely all that is needed to produce these results. It needs to be printed out so that it is roughly 2 to 3 feet diameter, it needs to be observed rotating at high speeds for roughly 20-30 minutes a day for a period of 6 months minimum, though if no results turn up by 12 months then I give (most likely the results would occur before the 6-12 month time limit), and the black bits must be colored using the darkest black one can get, absorbing at least 98% of the light if not more, while the white needs to be as white as possible. Try it and SEE for yourself!


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First off, I would like to thank you coosjoaquin for providing insightful analyzes pertaining to the Mind Portal, they are quite useful and I do appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

And...I agree entirely, without performing experiments we won't be able to verify anything...they would have to be done with care and consideration, and I will now review your ideas carefully.
Hehe thanks

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Super...no...natural. I am merely seeking to find and access what we already possess, but which we cannot access. I have no superpowers that I can think of. Also, I think you misunderstand the nature of my claims if you find that I am claiming to possess superpowers...all I can say to you and to myself is...maybe...(meaning I don't know for sure myself)?
If I did make a claim that sounds to be that I possess a superpower, please remind me exactly what it was I said...and I add that much of what I have experienced I have no power to control at all, the things happened on their own...so I have trouble identifying that as possessing superpowers. IF I can manage to gain control over these occurrences, then I can say to myself that I have gained superpowers.
Don't worry. It doesn't matter what the claims are, I'm just pointing out that if there isn't a suitable experiment to make then we can't test the claims.

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Err...NO...you are mistaking, I looked up the N-ray experiments and there is no resemblance whatsoever.
No, what I'm saying is that a similar version of the experiment that was used to find out that N-rays didn't exist could be done to test if you can see energy.

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I WILL say I could be wrong, and that I am not seeing energy, or thoughts coming out of people's minds, but I am feeling so confident about this one that I would even get cocky over it, the results I predict CAN be repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again. When they do, then the question is, what exactly is going on, why seeing energy come out of people's minds or fluttering through the air, what is happening to the eyes?

A little clue to here, the image below of the checkered pattern is most likely all that is needed to produce these results. It needs to be printed out so that it is roughly 2 to 3 feet diameter, it needs to be observed rotating at high speeds for roughly 20-30 minutes a day for a period of 6 months minimum, though if no results turn up by 12 months then I give (most likely the results would occur before the 6-12 month time limit), and the black bits must be colored using the darkest black one can get, absorbing at least 98% of the light if not more, while the white needs to be as white as possible. Try it and SEE for yourself!
Wait are you sure that what you are seeing isn't the after effect of an optical illusion? Look at the spiral(or any other kind of spiral) while it's spinning, concentrate on it for about 20 seconds and then look at something else like your hand. You should see the space around it bending the other way.

When you stare at a moving object, different cells in your brain activate which are responsible for detecting movement. By comparing the active cells, the brain can tell which way the object is moving. The problem happens after a while when the cells responsible for detecting clockwise movement tire while the others are still firing. This gives you the weird optical effect. I'm not sure what the effects of staring at something for 20-30 minutes(as opposed to 20 seconds) for up to a year will do but it sure can't be too good for the eyes.


Also, this has been nagging for a while:
I honestly think that your machine does work but not for the same reasons you say. What I mean by that is that because you are staring at a spinning spiral while very relaxed, it's making you enter a very suggestive state. I think that reflecting on your life, looking at whats wrong with it and subconsciously thinking to yourself how you want to feel in this autosuggestive(self-hypnotic) state is the reason why you feel so great, so unafraid and so determined.

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Don't worry. It doesn't matter what the claims are, I'm just pointing out that if there isn't a suitable experiment to make then we can't test the claims.
Do you think really that this cannot be tested? I'm betting you don't. Your words indicate intelligence, thus I am certain you are aware that this can be tested...really...tell me you lack the mind to come up with an idea how...I doubt you won't do this, because my senses tell me your capable.

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No, what I'm saying is that a similar version of the experiment that was used to find out that N-rays didn't exist could be done to test if you can see energy.
Go for it...but make sure the test is set up correctly...this isn't some 1 day process we are talking about...

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Wait are you sure that what you are seeing isn't the after effect of an optical illusion? Look at the spiral(or any other kind of spiral) while it's spinning, concentrate on it for about 20 seconds and then look at something else like your hand. You should see the space around it bending the other way.
NOOOOOOO.....you can take my word for it...I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE...because I spin this thing every day...

I see the bending as you say, for about 20 seconds...

But what I am talking about is when you AREN'T spinning at all, and haven't done so for several hours...you see energy and it's not always the same. I have distinguished over 50 different kinds, not just the bending that comes after gazing at this for some time and not just while in the approximation of doing so. You are mistaken.

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When you stare at a moving object, different cells in your brain activate which are responsible for detecting movement. By comparing the active cells, the brain can tell which way the object is moving. The problem happens after a while when the cells responsible for detecting clockwise movement tire while the others are still firing. This gives you the weird optical effect. I'm not sure what the effects of staring at something for 20-30 minutes(as opposed to 20 seconds) for up to a year will do but it sure can't be too good for the eyes.
Without providing a COMPLETE MAP of the physical process, you shooting blank statements here. Nothing has been proving. I'll tell you this...do you understand how regeneration waves informs cells to repair and perfect? DAMAGE!!! Weight trainers damage their cells, thereby releasing regeneration wave transmissions that inform the body to heal in the damaged area, though the regeneration tends to trickle elsewhere too, thereby increasing health. The same applies to learning...and many other things...

A very little damage (from seeing this spin...very, very little indeed) causes the system to HEAL. Over time...the system changes, in my case, adapts and gains the ability to SEE what you will never see if you don't LOOK. You are missing out...

If you don't believe me, go study biology for a couple of years...

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Also, this has been nagging for a while:
I honestly think that your machine does work but not for the same reasons you say. What I mean by that is that because you are staring at a spinning spiral while very relaxed, it's making you enter a very suggestive state. I think that reflecting on your life, looking at whats wrong with it and subconsciously thinking to yourself how you want to feel in this autosuggestive(self-hypnotic) state is the reason why you feel so great, so unafraid and so determined.

This is good. It is also correct, though not complete. There is more to this still, even if it where all a mental process, thoughts ARE physical things, they don't exist in some separate world. Though there is more to this then thoughts, layers of spiral light are LITERALLY entering into the brain through the eyes...you really need to at least try to visualize the entire process or else you will never fully understand it. I could go on and on and on, really, but time is limited and I am tired...later.

Thank you,
I appreciate your intelligence!


Peace,
Jozen-Bo
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