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Old 07-31-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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Arizona, the only 1/48 that does not have DST, is in a perfect location as far as 'natural' DST goes. It is in the western half of its time zone - Mountain - so average local noon is around 12:20 Standard. This produces sunsets past 7:30pm during June and July, late enough for most people, and sunrises around 5:30 during those months.
The Navajo Rez, which occupies a chunk of northern AZ, does recognize DST.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Ithaca, New York
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Having the daylight saving 12 months would be good and happier.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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What's the problem again with DST? Oh, right - people have to reset their clocks. That is, the few clocks remaining that don't reset themselves (hell, even my battery-powered analog wall clock resets itself automatically). That must take a minute. Sometimes even two minutes. I don't know where people find the time!

Then there's the adjustment. It's like getting up an hour earlier, once. How horrible is that? Or it's like the jet-lag from travelling to an adjacent time zone (I assume the people who can't handle DST never travel from the east coast to the west coast or vice-versa - that three-hour adjustment must just about put them in their graves).Frankly, the 'cost' of DST is a first-world problem right up there with belly-button lint.

On the other hand, if we scrapped it then we'd be spared the bi-annual whining about it.

It just might be worth it!
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Another example of DC swamp mindedness.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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Another example of DC swamp mindedness.


So your definition of 'swamp' in the context of 'drain the swamp' is 'anything I don't like'?

How self-absorbed.

And demonstrably wrong - because DST is not federally mandated. What the federal government does is simply establish a standard so that the states who do follow DST do so uniformly. Of course, no state is required to do so as evidenced by the fact that some states do not.

Believe it or not, not everything is about your political gripes.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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If you worked outside you wouldn't ask the question. DST is the only way to get people out of bed an hour earlier in the summer. Working in the cool of the morning lets you be more productive. Without DST you would be starting work three hours after sunrise.
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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If you worked outside you wouldn't ask the question. DST is the only way to get people out of bed an hour earlier in the summer. Working in the cool of the morning lets you be more productive. Without DST you would be starting work three hours after sunrise.
I have a solution to that: Rename Dolly Parton's classic hit, "Working 8 to 4"!

Puts noon in the middle of the business day, and gets people up earlier. Many supermarkets already open at 7am - they get it. In agrarian(pre industrial) times, everyone was up early, and they didn't need a clock to remind them. We need to get back into that as a culture, and leave clocks alone. We're too lazy now!

People would naturally go to bed earlier, knowing they have to be at work the next morning. DST? It benefits only those drawn like moth to a light, to late-night TV! Then they sleep in next morning, and flush 2-3 usable hours of daylight down the toilet!

Me, I'm just frickn sick n tired of the 7-month jet lag DST causes. And: knowing what time it is by my body, and then looking at the clock, which is trying to tell me it's one hour later!

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Old 08-02-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Anyone working 9 to 5 is in an air conditioned office, and is so disconnected from nature that it doesn't matter when the sun comes up. When I was working construction, our hours were 7:30 to 4 with a half hour lunch, which was barely tolerable during DST. We kept trying to talk the boss into 6:30 to 3, but he wasn't willing to do that because the lumber yards didn't open until 7. In the winter on standard time, daybreak was right around 7:30.
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