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Old Today, 04:03 AM
 
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Climate changes. Always has.
Does man change climate? Perhaps, on a local level.
But not to the extent claimed by the Alarmists.
Nor do their claims of gloom and doom pan out.
Just another scam to "tax air" and skim from the muggles.
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Climate changes. Always has.
True but never has the temperatures changed at the rate we are now seeing this change occur. That's the important part cherry pickers always over look.

You're simply trying to spread the biggest myth touted by climate deniers.

So why is the myth wrong?

The myth is wrong for two reasons:

First, to infer that humans can't be behind today's climate change because climate changed before humans is bad reasoning (a non-sequitur). Humans are changing the climate today mainly via greenhouse gas emissions, the same mechanism that caused climate change before humans.

Scientific analysis of past climates shows that greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changes. The evidence for that is spread throughout the geological record. This makes it clear that this time around humans are the cause, mainly by our CO2 emissions.

Mt Edna in Sicily blows yearly sending millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Now combine this with all the other volcanic activity on Earth. The highest scientific estimate for yearly volcanic CO2 eruptions is 500 Million tons of volcanic CO2 yearly. *This is only 2% of the 30 Billion tons of Human produced CO2*!!!!!

Humans put out 30 Billion tons of CO2 yearly.

How do we know the difference between naturally produced CO2 and human produced CO2?

Volcanic CO2 has its own unique fingerprint as does human produced CO2 via burning coal and oil and gas. Volcanic CO2 is heavier.

We can distinguish between the two when we look at them at the atomic level. The measure amount of human produced CO2 output tallies the true measured concentrations.

It’s clear from the measurements that the over abundant CO2 being measured is human produced.

Second, to imply we have nothing to fear from today's climate change is not borne out by the lessons from rapid climate changes in Earth's past.
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Does man change climate? Perhaps, on a local level.
False. Perhaps you should take the time to educate yourself before making statements that show you don't know what your talking about.

Read the Notice I posted...it's full of actual time-series data that greatly conflicts with your unsubstantiated claims.

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But not to the extent claimed by the Alarmists.
There are no alarmists...that's just your interpretation.
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Nor do their claims of gloom and doom pan out.
Yes they do. Are you not aware of these facts:

1992 the first letter to Humanity was written and some of their concerns where the following:
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They expressed concern about current, impending, or potential damage on planet Earth involving ozone depletion, freshwater availability, marine life depletion, ocean dead zones, forest loss, biodiversity destruction, climate change, and continued human population growth. They proclaimed that fundamental changes were urgently needed to avoid the consequences our present course would bring.
In fact the only issue addressed from the 1992 letter to Humanity was the stabilizing of the hole in our Ozone that was caused by chlorofluorocarbon. Scientists credit that progress to the phasing out of chlorofluorocarbons — chemicals once used in refrigerators, air conditioners and aerosol cans that trigger reactions in the atmosphere to break down ozone.

I supposed those scientists were just being "alarmists" when they raised the concern for the widening hole in our protective ozone layer.

Fast forward 25 years later...Humanity has failed to address the issues and now we have the following problems that were mentioned 25 years ago.
  • a current trajectory of potentially catastrophic climate change due to rising GHGs from burning fossil fuels,
  • deforestation and agricultural production—particularly from farming ruminants for meat consumption
  • we have unleashed a mass extinction event, the sixth in roughly 540 million years, wherein many current life forms could be annihilated or at least committed to extinction by the end of this century
  • the human population, describing how our large numbers—swelled by another 2 billion people since 1992, a 35 percent increase—exert stresses on Earth that can overwhelm other efforts to realize a sustainable future
  • Humanity is pushing Earth’s ecosystems beyond their capacities to support the web of life
  • Since 1992 annual carbon dioxide emissions have increased by 62 percent.
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Just another scam to "tax air" and skim from the muggles.
You simply don't know what you are talking about.

Perhaps you should take a moment to educate yourself on the actual situation. You appear to have a lot of misconceptions and are missing a lot of facts.

World Scientists’ Warning to Humanity: A Second Notice

When we have an established emergent scientific truth, it is true whether or not you want to believe it.

The sooner people like you understand this, the faster we can get on with the political conversations about how to solve the problems that face us. Every minute a person is in denial, they are delaying the political solution that should have been established years ago.

As a voter, as a citizen, you will be faced with issues that require scientific literacy to fully understand the impact of the issue, isn’t’ it worth it to become scientifically literate so that you can think about these issues and act intelligently upon them?

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