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Old 11-05-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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Yes, best leave it at that but I do understand what you are saying.

I have one scientific question. It concerns "causes". You say the causes cannot be explained. Can you say why? Why would it be wrong to say that perhaps the electrical charge stimulates the neurons and that awakens our "consciousnes / awareness", whatever that might be? I know the article called the action of the neurons "oscillating" but I prefer "electrical stimulating" - which, of course, could cause the oscillating, I suppose. Not that I know anything. :-)

Fascinating study, isn't it?
Certainly, without the brain there would be no consciousness. But no matter what electrical chemical processes and neuron activity are involved, in my opinion any attempt to explain consciousness by physical processes alone fall short of explaining its cause.

You said ''I don't see how the brain itself can produce. Something within it has to "start" action.''

I think that that 'something' which starts the action is a non-physical aspect of our being which interacts with the physical aspect (the brain) of our being. But again, that is getting into metaphysics which is outside the purview of science.

I don't want say anything more that is 'non-scientific' and have it be deleted since this is the science forum, so we'll have to leave it there.
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Old 11-06-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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Certainly, without the brain there would be no consciousness. But no matter what electrical chemical processes and neuron activity are involved, in my opinion any attempt to explain consciousness by physical processes alone fall short of explaining its cause.

You said ''I don't see how the brain itself can produce. Something within it has to "start" action.''

I think that that 'something' which starts the action is a non-physical aspect of our being which interacts with the physical aspect (the brain) of our being. But again, that is getting into metaphysics which is outside the purview of science.

I don't want say anything more that is 'non-scientific' and have it be deleted since this is the science forum, so we'll have to leave it there.
Ah, all right. I understand. Thanks.
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