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Old 11-09-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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If water coming out of water treatment plants is so great, why are Coke and nestle's selling so much bottled water? BTW, imagine when getting bottled water that 1/4 of it is petroleum products. That's what it takes to get that bottle of water into a person's hand.

You might want to read where that water they're selling comes from.


https://www.motherjones.com/environm...ornia-drought/


Most of them come from municipal water sources.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Most of them come from municipal water sources.
Make that "all," AFAIK. There are no US bottleries that run from their own wells. So when you buy a bottle of Dasani or Aquafina, you are buying local tap water that (1) has been run through the plant's purifying process but (2) has no additives yet is (3) priced the same as a Coke or Pepsi.

Dasani came into being because of a Coke VP who felt bad about selling sugary drinks. He did not, however, feel any shame at charging a 60-80,000 percent markup on his healthy alternative.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Make that "all," AFAIK. There are no US bottleries that run from their own wells. So when you buy a bottle of Dasani or Aquafina, you are buying local tap water that (1) has been run through the plant's purifying process but (2) has no additives yet is (3) priced the same as a Coke or Pepsi.

Dasani came into being because of a Coke VP who felt bad about selling sugary drinks. He did not, however, feel any shame at charging a 60-80,000 percent markup on his healthy alternative.

It depends on terms.. If we're talking "Bottled water" and excluding spring waters and the like.. Yes, it probably is all.


But, if we use 'bottled water' as a generic term.. There are a few out there.

Oh.. And then there's this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFKT4jvN4OE
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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But, if we use 'bottled water' as a generic term.. There are a few out there.
No, we're talking about major-brand bottled water produced right next to major-brand sodas etc. While Coke and PepsiCo both have spring-water brands, Dasani and Aquafina (I always type Aquafresh first... ) aren't them.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Great Bear Spring, located near Fulton NY (between Syracuse and Oswego) has been shipping and marketing spring water drawn from its own source to the New York City area for 135 years.

Friends of Great Bear, Fulton NY / Phoenix New York

In the days before the development of all-weather highways, Great Bear water moved by means of a fleet of railroad tank cars., and was bottled downstate. Presumably, these cars were owned by, or possibly leased to the shipper, and dedicated to the service, so the car hauling water hadn't been used for something less healthy on a previous trip -- can't say whether the cars were lined with anything. There are sites dedicated exclusively to model railroaders which had details at one time, but no reference or photo turned up on a preliminary search.

An employer in Manhattan for which I worked or a short time back in the Nineties supplied drinking water in individual bottles, but a closer scrutiny of the label revealed the source as the "St. Louis city water system" -- not exactly "Source Perrier".

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Old 11-09-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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Oil is not a renewable resource. I believe 'peak oil' was reached in the late 70s if Im not mistaken.

This has been much analyzed and discussed. There was some estimate that we had passed peak oil but of course technology improved, alternate energy sourced developed growth rates declined and things like Fracking and Deep sea drilling techniques were developed. I read somewhere that based on current technology and consumption rates we have something like more 300 years.

Nothing to worry about now.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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Oil is not a renewable resource. I believe 'peak oil' was reached in the late 70s if Im not mistaken.

This has been much analyzed and discussed. There was some estimated that we had passed peak oil but of course technology improved, alternate energy sources developed, growth rates declined, and things like Fracking and Deep sea drilling techniques were developed. I read somewhere that based on current technology and consumption rates we have something like more 300 years.

Nothing to worry about now.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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This has been much analyzed and discussed. There was some estimated that we had passed peak oil but of course technology improved, alternate energy sources developed, growth rates declined, and things like Fracking and Deep sea drilling techniques were developed. I read somewhere that based on current technology and consumption rates we have something like more 300 years.

Nothing to worry about now.
Probably not on the source end, and not for short periods of "now," no.

There might be a few other issues to worry about, now.
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Old 11-09-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod/Green Valley AZ
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If you want an adventure, read up on Abiotic oil (oil -- hydrocarbons really) is not from decayed organic matter, but is a naturally produced substance. The Russians are big into this theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqn1sl13Hzk

Rich
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:00 AM
 
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Once CO2 in the air gets to 450ppm? or 500ppm? and the effects of climate change become so pronounced and deadly, international consensus will be reached to make it illegal to extract oil, except for small amounts needed for non-combustion purposes, like certain chemicals and lubricants. I'll guess around 2050-2100. Lots of oil will be stranded and left underground.
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