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Old 04-27-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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Category 1 perpetual motion: makes more energy than it consumes.


(For reference, category 2 is frictionless and category 3 uses hidden power source to deceive.)


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Old 04-27-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Category 1 perpetual motion: makes more energy than it consumes.
The usual argument is that it's not "making energy" but pulling it from some untapped source - see Newman Motor and a hundred others. They will point to solar cells and the like as "making energy from nowhere" just like their magic magnetic gravity-bender. And who knows: there may someday be power sources that can draw on magnetogravitic power just like solar cells. But don't invest in any yet.

This is, unfortunately, the same flaw as many things that Tesla (Nick, not Elon) was revered for. His notions of electrical power, after the brilliant breakthroughs of AC power theory, were... right up there with every perpetual motion designer and magnetic nonsense purveyors. His "power transmission" projects were based on the idea that if you plucked Earth's magnetic fields, you could draw power from them. The Wardenclyffe tower was a giant... plucker.

Oh, well.
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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The usual argument is that it's not "making energy" but pulling it from some untapped source - see Newman Motor and a hundred others. They will point to solar cells and the like as "making energy from nowhere" just like their magic magnetic gravity-bender. And who knows: there may someday be power sources that can draw on magnetogravitic power just like solar cells. But don't invest in any yet.

This is, unfortunately, the same flaw as many things that Tesla (Nick, not Elon) was revered for. His notions of electrical power, after the brilliant breakthroughs of AC power theory, were... right up there with every perpetual motion designer and magnetic nonsense purveyors. His "power transmission" projects were based on the idea that if you plucked Earth's magnetic fields, you could draw power from them. The Wardenclyffe tower was a giant... plucker.

Oh, well.
LOL! I've never heard it called that, but it sorta fits. gud wun!

For an entertaining few minutes look on YT for lectures about Tesla's longitudinal waves (or some such, not remembering the spelling). Total and complete utter BS, but done oh so seriously.

FWIW, a super motor is the plot device that drives Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged." I think the over-unity aspect was that it produced an unusually large amount of hot air.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Besides one made in Korea, this is the first I know of commercially produced "free energy" motor that can power various applications.
Not a perpetuum mobile. Uses magnetic force. As magnets deplete, they need to be replaced. But, otherwise, it is 100% zero fuel/zero emissions.


https://ie.energy/index.html

How much of your money have you invested in this? Maybe you can get it back if you cancel within 3 days?
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Old Today, 05:19 PM
 
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People who understand thermodynamics never take these things seriously.
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