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Old 08-10-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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I have 2 Smart TVs

one bought about 10 years ago one bought about two years ago and neither one of them work whatsoever in playing anything off a USB

I'm currently living in a rural location and I do not have access to anything but satellite internet and do not want to pay the exorbitant fees for a less efficient product

At this point I am trying to explore options to download video off the internet at work or the library and play it at home

I'm not trying to rip the latest Game of Thrones episode or anything like that I'm just wanting to watch some old crusty judo videos off youtube on my large screen

I've tried the USB and I've tried to burn a DVD at work but of course neither one will work in my Smart TV or DVD player...one dvd player will play the audio but no video

Makes me remember the good old days of VHS were all we had was pal or ntsc

now we're buried chin-deep in thousands of different formats and codecs and it doesn't seem like anything works or communicates unless you are part of the proprietary Network

So ridiculous that in the United States in the year 2019 I can't just take a USB to work, download a few old judo videos to mp4 and go home and enjoy the tournaments on my weekend with my "smart" tv...LOL

Looked up a few media players on Amazon but they all have really dodgy reviews

Perhaps I should just go to a pawn shop and get a old desktop computer hook that up to my smart TV and play USB and DVD's off it?

Is this at this point I am literally downloading video to a tablet and watching my tournaments on a tiny little screen

Insignia Ns-42e470a13

Insignia (roku tv) Ns-39dr510na17

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Old 08-10-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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I have a TV that is not hooked up to the internet, which I use for watching movies.

I get the movie DVDs from my library, or from eBay.

And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that judo organizations, judo fans, and/or teachers sell DVDs.

There's also youtube. I have an unlimited cell phone data plan from Verizon, which I use to connect my laptop to the internet. My smartphone, laptop, and TV are all blue-tooth enabled. Although I've never been motivated to mess with it, I'm pretty sure I could use this fact to stream youtube movies to my TV.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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kodi on a p.c. (raspberry-pi) or tablet with h.d.m.i.-out.
https://www.alphachooser.com/tablet_...blet_computers
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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I have a TV that is not hooked up to the internet, which I use for watching movies.

I get the movie DVDs from my library, or from eBay.

And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that judo organizations, judo fans, and/or teachers sell DVDs.

There's also youtube. I have an unlimited cell phone data plan from Verizon, which I use to connect my laptop to the internet. My smartphone, laptop, and TV are all blue-tooth enabled. Although I've never been motivated to mess with it, I'm pretty sure I could use this fact to stream youtube movies to my TV.
Bluetooth won't help you there but a casting app will

Either way you have to have a hotspot enabled cell phone or Wi-Fi

I would like to download videos from the internet take them home on a thumb drive or a burnt CD and watch them on the big screen

Should be extremely simple but there are so many different codes and languages and proprietary software that we have failed to regulate it it turns into a veritable cluster bomb
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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kodi on a p.c. (raspberry-pi) or tablet with h.d.m.i.-out.
https://www.alphachooser.com/tablet_...blet_computers
Excellent post that is the best option available

Not all tablets will send HDMI signals to a TV because of all the proprietary codes nothing's Universal like it used to be with VHS

There are some cool media players and adapters but they have dodgy reviews and seem buggy

https://www.amazon.com/Micca-Full-HD...gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/tablet-hdmi-c...hdmi+converter
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Bluetooth won't help you there but a casting app will

Either way you have to have a hotspot enabled cell phone or Wi-Fi
I have an iPhone, AFAIK all iPhones can be used as a personal hot spot, if your data plan allows such use. (Mine is a 6S, and last I looked, you could get a brand new 6S from Apple for $300.) So I am usually getting internet over the cellular network, not through a WiFi router. When I go to the library or starbucks to use their internet for faster downloading, I have to turn my personal hot spot OFF, and turn ON my WiFi. Conversely, when I'm at home, I have to turn ON my personal hot spot, and turn OFF my WiFi. IME, they don't play well with each other.

Dunno about a casting app, as I said, I've never seriously looked into it.


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I would like to download videos from the internet take them home on a thumb drive or a burnt CD and watch them on the big screen

Should be extremely simple but there are so many different codes and languages and proprietary software that we have failed to regulate it it turns into a veritable cluster bomb
You may need more than one DVD ripper. It's a pain, but frankly, ripping other peoples' content is a gray area* as you well know, so complaining that they don't make it easy for you is kind of weird.

*Not that gray, it's illegal, but I think most youtubers know it's a possibility, and unless you start to sell what you rip, it's unlikely you'll get in trouble.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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I have 2 Smart TVs

one bought about 10 years ago one bought about two years ago and neither one of them work whatsoever in playing anything off a USB

I'm currently living in a rural location and I do not have access to anything but satellite internet and do not want to pay the exorbitant fees for a less efficient product

At this point I am trying to explore options to download video off the internet at work or the library and play it at home

I'm not trying to rip the latest Game of Thrones episode or anything like that I'm just wanting to watch some old crusty judo videos off youtube on my large screen

I've tried the USB and I've tried to burn a DVD at work but of course neither one will work in my Smart TV or DVD player...one dvd player will play the audio but no video

Makes me remember the good old days of VHS were all we had was pal or ntsc

now we're buried chin-deep in thousands of different formats and codecs and it doesn't seem like anything works or communicates unless you are part of the proprietary Network

So ridiculous that in the United States in the year 2019 I can't just take a USB to work, download a few old judo videos to mp4 and go home and enjoy the tournaments on my weekend with my "smart" tv...LOL

Looked up a few media players on Amazon but they all have really dodgy reviews

Perhaps I should just go to a pawn shop and get a old desktop computer hook that up to my smart TV and play USB and DVD's off it?

Is this at this point I am literally downloading video to a tablet and watching my tournaments on a tiny little screen

Insignia Ns-42e470a13

Insignia (roku tv) Ns-39dr510na17

pitiful

After DRM (Digital Rights Management) and technology like HDCP (High Definition Content Protection) hit televisions and media players of all kinds, making any kind of hard copy in hopes of getting it to play on one of these smart TV's is a Hail Mary at best.

The best solution to achieve what you're wanting to do is have some sort of way to mirror the tablet's screen (or a laptop screen) to your TV. Yes, there are "YouTube video downloader" apps out there, but there is no guarantee the files will run correctly when transferred to USB and stuck in the TV. Some are ONLY designed to rifle through pictures, not play video (bitrate / memory limitations).

Is your tablet an iPad? You might be able to buy an Apple TV and mirror that onto the smart TV.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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I've tried the USB and I've tried to burn a DVD at work but of course neither one will work in my Smart TV or DVD player...one dvd player will play the audio but no video


A compliant DVD is authored with authoring software, it has a special folder structure etc. This should play on any DVD player with one small exception, some players will not play discs that are +R, -R or both. This is incompatibility with the disc itself and doesn't have anything to do with the files on it. If the player was built in the last 10 to 15 years it should be fine.





If you are just copying a file to disc this is referred to as data disc.The ability to play files on a data disc is an additional feature provided by the manufacturer and what it can play varies by manufacturer and models. You need to make sure the player supports the format of video you using. A compliant DVD uses MPEG2 with resolution of 720*480, set the bitrate at 6 to 8 Mbps and it should play when copied as file.



MPEG2 is not very efficient compared to more modern codecs, if it supports newer ones that is better bet. An HD resolution MPEG2 is going to create an enormous file.



Same thing applies to the USB, the TV needs to support it. Both the TV and the DVd player should support most common formats but that is not always the case. I know mine doesn't support DV but that might be an issue with data rates.



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Perhaps I should just go to a pawn shop and get a old desktop computer hook that up to my smart TV and play USB and DVD's off it?

Most laptops have HDMI on them, it can be connected right to TV. Most smart TV's can also read files directly from networked computer however the files still need to be compatible.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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Should be extremely simple but there are so many different codes and languages and proprietary software that we have failed to regulate it it turns into a veritable cluster bomb

Most support the most common formats, these formats haven't just popped up to **** you off. A modern codec uses about 1/4 the file size as MPEG2 for same quality video.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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After DRM (Digital Rights Management) and technology like HDCP (High Definition Content Protection) hit televisions and media players of all kinds, making any kind of hard copy in hopes of getting it to play on one of these smart TV's is a Hail Mary at best.

The best solution to achieve what you're wanting to do is have some sort of way to mirror the tablet's screen (or a laptop screen) to your TV. Yes, there are "YouTube video downloader" apps out there, but there is no guarantee the files will run correctly when transferred to USB and stuck in the TV. Some are ONLY designed to rifle through pictures, not play video (bitrate / memory limitations).

Is your tablet an iPad? You might be able to buy an Apple TV and mirror that onto the smart TV.
I'm using I'm using a Samsung tablet e to download videos and convert them via https://y2mate.com

Seems to work great the only problem is my Smart TV that claims to be able to play digital media video won't under any circumstances

It won't play digital video from a USB or a connected cable between the tablet and the TV

you just get a convoluted error message

The smart TVs are a total proprietary scam
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