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Old 07-14-2008, 07:38 AM
Location: Tampa
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Originally Posted by Mark S. View Post
That's rarely a good reason to do anything.
it usually is in the case of science.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:20 AM
Location: Mississippi
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Probably very highly unlikely. One of the key differences between humans and chimpanzees is the fact that the human being has 46 chromosomes whereas the chimpanzee and other great apes have 48. On each chromosomal "end" you have sections of massive amounts of DNA called telomeres. In the chimpanzee with 48 chromosomes there are 24 pairs (naturally). What is interesting about the human chromosomal count is that we actually find 48 chromosomes (indicating a common ancestor with that of the chimpanzee) however it is as if two chromosomes (#2 and #13 on each side) are fused together at the telomeres. So, we do have 23 pairs of chromosomes but in a much different fashion.

If anything, I would think that this would be one of the most difficult things to try and overcome in making a half-ape/half-human.

This is a good video from Ken Miller in which he is explaining one of the things that debunked the Intelligent Design movement in Dover, Pennsylvania (Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School Board) but it also gives a wonderful explanation of the chromosomes and telomeres as well as the differences between humans and chimps.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:46 PM
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I live near Dover-people in York County are indistinguishable from monkeys, anyhow!
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Location: Texas
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The Russians tried humans with chimps and (and vice versa), a long time ago. Also tried was bison with buffalo. That didn't work out too well, either. I've seen pictures of a cross between horses and zebras.

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Old 07-31-2008, 11:42 AM
Location: Texas
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Didn't the Germans try to do this back in the 30s/40s in order to create a more subservient slave race? Didn't work.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:16 PM
Location: Midwest
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Yeah, aren't the consequences of such a thing enormous? Even if we can do something, do we do it? If you could rob a bank, because you could come up with the technology and ability to do it, do you?
I think there are lines we don't cross, and we approach them with a reverence here. Any scientist who would delve into this, like some kid jumping into a river of alligators, is just shooting from the hip, hoping to get some Nobel prize and get into the textbooks. I am sure Mr. Newton and Mr. Darwin would say no.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:58 AM
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Just came across this thread. The horse in the top photo above looks suspiciously like a painted-on zebra, but the bottom photo really does appear to be a "hybrid". If you happen to read S.J. Gould's essays "What, If Anything, Is a Zebra?" and "How The Zebra Got Its Stripes" you can find much illumination! My guess is, the bottom zebra-horse was born this way not because it was the offspring of purposely breeding the two species (although it might've been), but the outcome of a horse being born with a mosaic expression of a gene(s) that code for striping. It seems that, like the probable relationship among humans, chimps and orangs, some zebra species are closer to horses than they are to the other zebra species. Thus a "zebra" is possibly not "anything" per se! Anyway, it's likely that all horses have these genes for stripes, but they are not expressed.

That said, humans and chimps might possibly be hybridized with great difficulty, but it would be an unconscionable moral decision to do such a thing. If anyone would ever doubt this, imagine being the hybrid.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:03 AM
Location: The REAL WORLD.
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Originally Posted by crystalblue View Post
I know it sounds gross, at least if they did it naturally (blech), but how difficult would it be to make a ape-human hybrid?

Great ape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

we seem to be awfully close, and at some point in the past we did have a common ancestor.
Hmmmmmmm, Looks like a blind date I went on years ago, the type that "has a great personality".
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:04 PM
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I am correcting my post above. I got curious about the "zorse" (the real one with the patches) above, and looked it up It is indeed an accidental hybrid horse-zebra that resides in Germany. Apparently a horse with white patches, if cross-bred with a zebra, will produce offspring with white patches and stripes.

In any case, it is true that a horse may be born occasionally without having a zebra parent, yet it has some stripes. This is because all horses have the latent genes for stripes. (Which are, in case you were dying to know, white stripes on a black animal )
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:50 AM
Location: Universal City, Texas
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The scientist are already working on the chicken trying to bring back the raptor. On Discovery Channel, few months back, they showed the process and it was hoped that in about 50 years or less an emu would become emusaurus. And they are also working with mammoth remains in Russia attempting to bring the mammoth back to life.
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