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Old 11-16-2008, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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Seems silly, but someone once asked me if I had a time machine, what year(s) would I want to go to.... I never thought much about it until then.

Lets say you own a time machine, but can only go to three different years.... what years would you choose and why (optional).

Mine are:

1959 (was not around this year)
1972 (or this one)
1985 (was 9 years old this year)
2030 (will be 54 on this year! )

and maybe back to 1990.....
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:54 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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Time travel is only currently possible if you travel just below the speed of ligh to arrive in the future. Right now astronaughts leap into the future by a fewminutes as they take long durration flights. To travel into the past is only an idea. Some physacists think that if the speed of light barrier can be breached that time would then move backwards. Me Im not too sure.

Breaching the speed of light was once thought to not be possible at all as matter begins to compress until it becomes pure energy. This compression would be comperable to spaghetification that occurs in the point of no return in black holes. However there are some things that have began to make science question this. As of right now one scientist had found a fused microwave and sound wave that can travel 5 times the speed of light. He a microwave beam of sound and a laser twenty feet to a sensor. The microwave beam of sound made it to the sensor 5 times faster than the laser. Another scientist is working on the physics of energy compression. He discovered that a magnetic field could allow for speed to not crush what is inside of this field. How ever no field withour currnt energy sources would be lage enough to encase and protect anything much larger than a single attom at that speed. If you began to split atoms into their sub components you would find that the nucleus has nutrons and protons circling it. The protons and nutrons too have sub particles circling those. Well a particle was discovered that circles even these. That particle travels faster than the speed of light. Im not too sure but I believe their name is gamars? What is interseting is this particle is matter and it has found a way to not only travel faster than the speed of light but remains stable even in its sub, sub, sub orbit around the atom. Another discovery that leaves scientists theorizing about light speed is the black hole. All things are victim to a black holes super gravity. Or possibly not. The magnetosphere of black holes wrap from its North to South poles. At the absolute point of the poles there is nearly no magnetism. so as the hole feeds on matter energy must be released from the pressure. It is a point smaller than a pin head. But at the two poles of these steller mysteries is a jet of pure energy that zips into space at speeds that make light speed seem slow. So if nature has accomplished this twice in the black hole poles and inside the micro sub structure of atoms who is to say that man cannot.

As far as what year? I really am not a fan of any of those. I am affraid to see a future where me or my family may not exhist. 59' does not interest me. 72' was time of American sadness with the Vietnam war. 85' been there and done that pretty lame, Aids was begining to make headlines Reaganism was taking hold and MTV was taking over pop culture.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:34 PM
 
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Wow, can you rephrase that in english? That was like me reading an owners manual in Chinese. WOW.

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Time travel is only currently possible if you travel just below the speed of ligh to arrive in the future. Right now astronaughts leap into the future by a fewminutes as they take long durration flights. To travel into the past is only an idea. Some physacists think that if the speed of light barrier can be breached that time would then move backwards. Me Im not too sure.

Breaching the speed of light was once thought to not be possible at all as matter begins to compress until it becomes pure energy. This compression would be comperable to spaghetification that occurs in the point of no return in black holes. However there are some things that have began to make science question this. As of right now one scientist had found a fused microwave and sound wave that can travel 5 times the speed of light. He a microwave beam of sound and a laser twenty feet to a sensor. The microwave beam of sound made it to the sensor 5 times faster than the laser. Another scientist is working on the physics of energy compression. He discovered that a magnetic field could allow for speed to not crush what is inside of this field. How ever no field withour currnt energy sources would be lage enough to encase and protect anything much larger than a single attom at that speed. If you began to split atoms into their sub components you would find that the nucleus has nutrons and protons circling it. The protons and nutrons too have sub particles circling those. Well a particle was discovered that circles even these. That particle travels faster than the speed of light. Im not too sure but I believe their name is gamars? What is interseting is this particle is matter and it has found a way to not only travel faster than the speed of light but remains stable even in its sub, sub, sub orbit around the atom. Another discovery that leaves scientists theorizing about light speed is the black hole. All things are victim to a black holes super gravity. Or possibly not. The magnetosphere of black holes wrap from its North to South poles. At the absolute point of the poles there is nearly no magnetism. so as the hole feeds on matter energy must be released from the pressure. It is a point smaller than a pin head. But at the two poles of these steller mysteries is a jet of pure energy that zips into space at speeds that make light speed seem slow. So if nature has accomplished this twice in the black hole poles and inside the micro sub structure of atoms who is to say that man cannot.

As far as what year? I really am not a fan of any of those. I am affraid to see a future where me or my family may not exhist. 59' does not interest me. 72' was time of American sadness with the Vietnam war. 85' been there and done that pretty lame, Aids was begining to make headlines Reaganism was taking hold and MTV was taking over pop culture.

Well, its all a matter of personal preference and I have my reasons for those years.
If you think about it, there are bad times/memories for most people for most every year.... I just try to think of the good times.

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Old 11-17-2008, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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I have actually thought about this before.. To me there is only one really great year...and that would have to be 0 BC. I can think of no other single period of time that has come to have so much influence on the rest of the world and that event...what ever happened back then ...well...we're still disscussing,fighting and killing each over it to this day.

MInd you I'm NOT a religious type...never have been don't ever expect to be BUT...

Something sure as Hell was going on back then and I like to be able to stop in and see if there was a guy known as Jesus of Nazerath, the sermon on the mount and the whole birth of Christianity...what's the real story...I can think of no other more important time

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Old 11-18-2008, 05:04 AM
 
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Discovery - First Time Machine
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:44 PM
 
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Funny story, I had a woman contact me once via email for coal for her "Time machine". A completely serious inquiry too as she had links to a diagrams and plans on a website. That was one email I wish I had saved. The coal I deal with is a psecial kind of coal that has the highest carbon content. Apprently the cheap coal was doing it for her.

If I could go back in time I'd probaly want to go back to the end of WW2 and be able to take along a TV and some footage of what the world is now. Sit the leaders of both the U.S. and the soviet Union down and show them where we are at now and how we got here. Things would proabaly be vastly different and a much better place to live.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Detroit Downriver
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Time travel is only currently possible if you travel just below the speed of ligh to arrive in the future. Right now astronaughts leap into the future by a fewminutes as they take long durration flights. To travel into the past is only an idea. Some physacists think that if the speed of light barrier can be breached that time would then move backwards. Me Im not too sure.

Breaching the speed of light was once thought to not be possible at all as matter begins to compress until it becomes pure energy. This compression would be comperable to spaghetification that occurs in the point of no return in black holes. However there are some things that have began to make science question this. As of right now one scientist had found a fused microwave and sound wave that can travel 5 times the speed of light. He a microwave beam of sound and a laser twenty feet to a sensor. The microwave beam of sound made it to the sensor 5 times faster than the laser. Another scientist is working on the physics of energy compression. He discovered that a magnetic field could allow for speed to not crush what is inside of this field. How ever no field withour currnt energy sources would be lage enough to encase and protect anything much larger than a single attom at that speed. If you began to split atoms into their sub components you would find that the nucleus has nutrons and protons circling it. The protons and nutrons too have sub particles circling those. Well a particle was discovered that circles even these. That particle travels faster than the speed of light. Im not too sure but I believe their name is gamars? What is interseting is this particle is matter and it has found a way to not only travel faster than the speed of light but remains stable even in its sub, sub, sub orbit around the atom. Another discovery that leaves scientists theorizing about light speed is the black hole. All things are victim to a black holes super gravity. Or possibly not. The magnetosphere of black holes wrap from its North to South poles. At the absolute point of the poles there is nearly no magnetism. so as the hole feeds on matter energy must be released from the pressure. It is a point smaller than a pin head. But at the two poles of these steller mysteries is a jet of pure energy that zips into space at speeds that make light speed seem slow. So if nature has accomplished this twice in the black hole poles and inside the micro sub structure of atoms who is to say that man cannot.

As far as what year? I really am not a fan of any of those. I am affraid to see a future where me or my family may not exhist. 59' does not interest me. 72' was time of American sadness with the Vietnam war. 85' been there and done that pretty lame, Aids was begining to make headlines Reaganism was taking hold and MTV was taking over pop culture.
You have a very knowledgeable understanding of your subject. Thanks for sharing your insight.

As a layman, I've thought a lot about this frontier of human knowledge. I totally reject the "Big Bang" theory. It is merely creationism without the Deity. It doesn't explain anything prior to the big bang.

The strongest support for the "Big Bang" theory comes from the observation of red shift of distant quasars. I'm paraphrasing, but I think there is a timing mechanism observed in quasars that makes it possible for scientists to calculate the distance to a particular type of quasar. The further away a quasar is, the greater the red shift in the visible spectrum. Since red shift is also a method of measuring relative velocity, and quasars the furtherest away have the greatest shift, therefore the greatest velocity, the Universe is theorized to be expanding from a central location, the center of the "Big Bang."

But, consider for a moment that today's science has no prior experience with these distances before the Hubbell Telescope. What if, for instance, light traveling over distances always shifts imperceptibly to the red end of the spectrum, and measurably so with sufficient distance involved? Without that calculation that leads to the false presumption of an expanding Universe, we're left with a whole new set of circumstances; a static Universe of unknown dimension so large that we cannot even pretend to observe the edge of it.

Consider light as just another waveform with all of it's known properties and add the property of loss due to red shift. Much of what we "know" about the Universe must be recalculated.

In the case of black holes, instead of spaghettification of the matter entering the black hole, space is curved and decompressed. In normal space, one millisecond of observation captures light like a camera lens from a single point of observation. Approaching the speed of light, at 10% SOL the light sources of normal space are smeared, while light sources at 10% SOL are normal. At some higher percentage normal space would become invisible, while light sources at the higher velocity would become visible.

Space, being curved by the relationship of mass and velocity, becomes spaghettified as one approaches and circles the enormous mass of the black hole, while one's matter remains normal at the higher velocity.

The further one travels into the black hole, the faster one travels. The faster one travels, the greater the relative distance to the center of the black hole.

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Detroit Downriver
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Seems silly, but someone once asked me if I had a time machine, what year(s) would I want to go to.... I never thought much about it until then.

Lets say you own a time machine, but can only go to three different years.... what years would you choose and why (optional).

Mine are:

1959 (was not around this year)
1972 (or this one)
1985 (was 9 years old this year)
2030 (will be 54 on this year! )

and maybe back to 1990.....
Well, I think I would have to use at least two trips to play the stock market. I'd just go back and pick and buy a stock with a well known high multiple of growth, come back to the present time and sell.

I'd have to take a peek at the future, but it might also be fun to slip back to the days of King Aurthur and dazzle them with my brilliance and knowledge of the simplest of things.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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1899, Colorado Springs
1776, Philadelphia
2300 BC, Egypt
1610, Italy

I'll let y'all figure out the "why".
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Bethesda
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Seems silly, but someone once asked me if I had a time machine, what year(s) would I want to go to.... I never thought much about it until then.

Lets say you own a time machine, but can only go to three different years.... what years would you choose and why (optional).

Mine are:

1959 (was not around this year)
1972 (or this one)
1985 (was 9 years old this year)
2030 (will be 54 on this year! )

and maybe back to 1990.....
Never mind the naysayers that say backwards time travel isn't possible. This is a science forum but there are theoretical ways of traveling backwards. If wormholes are found to exist then they might provide a means. Another involves an infinitely long and extremely dense rotating cylinder. Although this is obviously impossible to construct, if a spaceship were to fly around it, it would go back in time.

As someone else stated, to travel forward all you have to do is use time dilation (traveling just under the speed of light c)

As far as your choice of dates go: No offense but if one person got to time travel I sure hope it's not you! You aren't curious about the world before 1959?! Well I suppose you have your reasons.
I would choose:
1.) 30 AD-Obvious reason of checking out Jesus and the Roman Empire.
2.) Either 2500 BC to see Ancient Egypt or 440 BC for Ancient Greece
3.) I too would go to 1990, but to put all of my money in Dell stock. I would sell before the dotcom downturn and would have many $millions.
4.) 2100 AD or maybe as far out as 2500 AD. The far future fascinates me, and it's far enough out that I wouldn't hear of anything disturbing about my future.
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