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You're just complaining -- I was merely giving a viewpoint based on experience. And don't be silly -- of course I didn't think it was California....they're totally different places!!
I guess I'm confused....I thought you were just thinking about moving to Seattle but weren't actually living there yet?? If you are there, then you love the weather and that's great. If you aren't then you'll be happy with what you get. Keep in mind, though, as a New Yorker, you'll most likely find the adjustment to the westcoast quietness more difficult than adapting to the weather...
I'm tired of giving my opinion, as others have who feel the same (in the interest of being honest with people who are considering a move but not really sure) -- and being told we have no valid reason for our opinions, especially by people who don't even live there. It's all yours now. Whatever....
Im not sure how to take this. From pic's Ive seen it seems to be very crowded there. I was born and raised in NY but now live in NJ, but the country part of the state on a lake. And I have a tough time sleeping here because there isn't any noise! NOTHING. Except crickets.
I lived in Seattle for only five years -- that was enough for me. And, I do like Vancouver weather much more, partly because it is not so wet. Cold is okay, wet isn't. Besides, I suppose I am biased because I am originally from a very cold environment, and I prefer cold over wet. I don't mind snow at all, and was born and raised in Buffalo, New York -- so I do know weather. I spent lots and lots of time in Canada, too (Buffalo's a border town) -- again, I don't mind the cold and snow compared to the wetness of rain and the sad gloom of cloudiness. Also lived in Phoenix, Boulder, California, and, of course, Seattle. And traveled widely, but that doesn't count for living in a place.
You guys can make fun of it -- I'm just saying that people who are thinking of coming to Seattle and have never lived in that kind of climate before may find themselves stuck and not able to leave. If they happen to be one of those who don't have SAD or really and truly enjoy wet, sloshy weather, they will be delighted. I just think it's wrong to only use "statistics" about rainfall, cloudiness, and snow to make a decision, and then post photos that belie the typical weather. I wished that someone had told me the truth before I had relocated. I guess they figured with me being from Buffalo that any weather had to be better than that!
I don't think on this forum there will be many who will tell it like it is in Seattle because it's seen as Seattle-bashing -- when it's not -- it's a reality that many people are affected by the lack of sun and the over-abundance of moisture -- it's not surprising that many people flock to the sunbelt states when they retire and have the opportunity to make a choice to settle elsewhere. Why is the truth seen as horrible? Seattle -- and I have repeatedly said this -- is in itself a great city -- it's just the darned weather!
Okay, so much for chiming in on this topic. I only wanted to present a viewpoint for those who may relinquish what they have and not be able to get it back if they truly think those sunny photos are the norm.....
Sorry I've insulted so many of you....
Wis...not making fun of you at all...just trying to lend some levity to an uncontrolable fact...climate.
I think before moving someone should do much research to avoid getting stuck, some people refuse to allow themselves be stuck, some people that may potentially suffer from something like SAD should put climate above income or "change of scenery" before all...like I said research (including visits) is key. Someone telling you the "truth before I had relocated" would still have been merely their truth and opinion and it still may have done no justice to how you feel about the weather.
Its amazing how weather plays such a huge factor, go onto the Phoenix, Buffalo or Boulder boards and you will see the same comments. I totally agree that weather can dictate someones overall happiness....but there should be little surprises left in this internet day and forum age.
I have lived in Seattle and Phoenix.....(currently in Tokyo) and for a brief moment I considered moving to Phoenix again for some housing and job opportunities. Then reality popped into my had and reminded me that I hate the heat!! A house and high paying job would have done nothing to help me escape the fact that...Its too freakin hot for me. Done....next....
Its all about the old "Pros and Cons list"...for me... Good luck Wis, I truly hope you can find a place that suits you taste...I mean that. (cliche alert) Life is too short to be unhappy!!
Location: Monterey Bay, California -- watching the sea lions, whales and otters! :D
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Shevin5: Good luck Wis, I truly hope you can find a place that suits you taste...I mean that. (cliche alert) Life is too short to be unhappy!!
Thanks, and I do agree about Phoenix. Also, yes, I did visit Seattle first, but year after year made the difference....
And I don't live there now -- I haven't lived there for 17 years! I am currently in California, and I do like the west and especially the southwest. So, I'm not suffering up there at all.
Anyway, I thought this thread had started out about the weather and how dreary it is, however, it seems to have taken a turn to how great and loved the weather is by many. So, I'll take my leave and think I'll just take a walk in the sun by the ocean!
Really? I'm surprised. If you go to Vancouver regularly, and then drive back toward Seattle, you will literally be driving out of sunshine and toward that big, dark, grey cloud hanging over Seattle -- it always surprised me each time I would see it -- it was surreal. I know that Vancouver is farther north, but the weather is actually sunnier. We'd sometimes go to Vancouver just to get some sun!!
That is not true! One friend from Vancouver came to Seattle last week and during this time in Vancouver was raining all the time!!! In Seattle was cloudy+sunny. Second - in Vancouver it rains much more, and it is colder and darker
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There is a joke/saying around here: "What follows two days of rain? ---Monday." And for most of the summer, that was exactly the pattern: a partly sunny to sunny weekdays, cloudy, gray blah during the weekends. This pattern pretty much changed around Labor Day weekend and it's been nice ever since, with the exception of this morning's gray blanket.
Yes the sunny pics and the ones with nice, mid to high clouds with patches of blue are nice, but this is not the norm. And this whole idea of the mid to high clouds is not the norm either. I live near Rainier, and I can say that most days outside of "summer" I cannot see the mountain. In fact, I always get jazzed when it is a clear day because Rainier booms out in all her glory and I think to myself "Oh yea. There is a mountain there." It's almost a shock.
I've lived in alot of places, including those so-called "gloomier" and "more cloudy days" places like Chicago. I've also lived in very hot places: Mississippi and West Texas come to mind. Yes, you sweat there during the summer, but that lasts a few months. It is not the predominant pattern. I loved rain and cloudy days before I moved here. Now I don't. Here is the sad part: I normally love fall. It is my favorite time of the year----the pumpkins and squash, the beautiful leaves, etc. The other day I saw leaves turning color and I found myself dreading fall. This has NEVER happened to me before. I found myself thinking "No. Not yet." You know you will get a few bluebird days in fall and then, bring on the big blanket.
Another thing I have found is my move here has changed the way I operate. Weather really does affect your life. Previously when I lived elsewhere, if I had chores, projects, errands, whatever, I would simply take the time or my day off and do them. Now, if the weather is nice, those chores take a big, back seat. In fact, with all the nice, sunny days we've had in the past two weeks, I don't even bother to go straight home from work but rather stay outside, soak up the sun, walk, whatever. It's like gorging yourself after a famine. You try to soak up as much as you can because you dont know when you'll see that sun again. Then when winter rolls around and it's dark by the time you arrive at work, dark when you leave, and you have that annoying rain that suddenly causes all sorts of driving amnesia, well you don't want to do anything but go straight home.
Heck, most of the times I've flown out of Seatac, we've broken through that 1000-3000ft blanket of clouds and I think to myself "Ah, there IS a sun." You have no idea of the change in moods a sunny day can make. I even see it when I go walking. People are more likely to greet you and with a smile when it is sunny and nice out rather than cloudy. Yesterday, you would have thought all was right in the world. Just about every person I passed had a smile and a nice "hello" or "hi" or "good evening." I had to pinch myself.
Just my .02
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